• AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    Oh good we’re giving more weapons to the genocidal regime that attacked our warship, interfered in our elections, and illegally acquired nukes, all on our dime.

    Biden, elected by the youth vote, essentially retiring with this move, but still running so as to ensure a trump victory so they don’t need to enforce any troublesome laws.

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    This article is inaccurate or at least misleading in its title presentation. It’s reporting on something that happened on October 20th, as the second paragraph notes, and was never actually enacted. In fact, Biden moved back from this and has been instead moving to restrict all weaponry sales to Israel in the past few days.

    Biden has not been in any form of good light in my eyes in the past two months, but please don’t spread fake or misleading information like this.

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      It’s reporting on something that happened on October 20th, as the second paragraph notes, and was never actually enacted.

      It’s reporting on a budget request filed on October 20th. The requests pertain to fiscal year 2024. It’s still set before the Senate to be voted on.

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      Do you have a source for him moving to restrict sales? I see there was a House bill about that a couple weeks ago, but it didn’t involve Biden.

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      I’ve been trying to convince my parents that this is absofuckinglutely genocide. It has not gone well. They are convinced that Israel is simply defending themselves, and all the civilian casualties are just how war is.

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        You could make the comparison with Russia’s actions towards Ukraine. Is it “just war” when Russia intentionally bombs children’s schools and hospitals? Most countries are civilized enough to only target military targets during a war. It’s also worth pointing out that modern missiles do not “accidentally” hit the wrong target, that’s about as likely as shooting a gun and “accidentally” hitting your friend standing behind you.

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          You have some seriously warped perspective. Israel is indeed committing actual genocide and ethic cleansing. They want to destroy Palestine and relocate what people are left, if any, into other countries. They have been creating illegal settlements for many many years if you want some context for this strategy.

          Israel is not “defending” itself. For example, sniping innocent doctors and patients and destroying a hospital is not self defense. The al shifa hospital also has not been found to be a Hamas base… 15 guns and a tunnel are not a military base. If it was, this still would not justify those actions. The scale of this “defense” is really disgusting, especially when Israel has been oppressing the people of Palestine for many decades.

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    There’s nothing genocide Joe loves more than bombing brown people. Reminder that this is the same piece of human garbage that voted for the invasion of Iraq in which US regime massacred over a million people.

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    I can’t imagine Hamas being the sole reason behind this decision. Of course at face value it is but feels like they are taking this opportunity to do this for some other reason.

    Terrible nonetheless but worried about what else is to happen due to this.

  • Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    But Ukraine can’t even get enough AGTMs and shells. God forbid mentioning atacms, almost two fucking years!

    I can’t believe that Netanjahu is more trustworthy than Zaluzhny.

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        Before we proceed to discuss this valuable political point, what is your opinion on JWBush’s 1990 speech in Verkhovna Rada? Or you are of that bunch who thought oatmeal cookies on Maidan in 2014 were how these ammies bought Ukraine’s independence?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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          I’m of the opinion that US wanted political capture of as much of former USSR as it could get ever since USSR dissolved, and has succeeded in creating vassal states out of most former Soviet republics. Ukraine tried to maintain its neutrality between the west and Russia and largely succeeded until US ran a violent coup in 2014, at which point the legitimate elected government was overthrown.

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                Last time I checked, the birthplace of parents doesn’t qualify you for any domain specific knowledge.

                Just as you don’t know a thing about the chicken Kiev speech, you lack any deep, actual knowledge of what life in Ukraine is. Or rather was before 2013.

                And yeah, the whole quora post you link to is laughable - how much things does it get wrong.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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                  You’re right, it’s the time I’ve spent learning about the subject that qualifies me to speak on the subject and how I know you’re full of shit.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    “If enacted, the amendments would create a two-step around restrictions on U.S. weapons transfers to Israel,” said John Ramming Chappell, a legal fellow with the Center for Civilians in Conflict.

    Under circumstances laid out in these requirements, Israel has been able to draw on the stockpile, purchasing the weapons at little cost if it uses the effective subsidy of U.S. military aid.

    The effect of lifting the restrictions on transfers to Israel — such as eliminating the requirement that the weapons be part of a surplus — could harm U.S. interests by diminishing American preparedness for its own conflicts in the region, said Josh Paul, a former official who served in the State Department’s Bureau of Political-Military Affairs.

    The U.S. government is only supposed to spend $200 million per fiscal year restocking the WRSA-I — about half the total cap for all U.S. stockpiles round the globe.

    The U.S. currently requires that Israel grant certain concessions in exchange for certain types of arms assistance from the Pentagon, but the White House request would remove this condition as well.

    “The Biden administration’s supplemental budget request would further undermine oversight and accountability even as U.S. support enables an Israeli campaign that has killed thousands of children,” said Chappell, of Center for Civilians in Conflict.


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