If it’s what I am thinking of it’s basically that it takes drastically more time and energy to dispute liberal bullshit than it does for them to make it up. Libs will just spew capitalist propaganda bullshit all day long because it’s easy. To refute every point takes drastically more time and energy from us to come up with sources, explanations, etc. So it’s a loosing battle to try and refute them if it takes you hours to debunk and takes them 10 seconds to spew more bullshit.
A corollary: the move from liberalism to Marxism is marked by a change in worldview as a whole. Like ‘paradigm shifts’ in the Kuhnian conception of scientific revolutions, ‘disruptive innovation’ under capitalism, or the qualitative character of change in dialectics, this transition is marked by a kind of incommensurability between two things, in this case the consensus point of view in liberal societies and the Marxist point of view.
Marxism isn’t a liberal, capitalist framework with a series of factual misapprehensions and faulty analytic judgments corrected, and for that reason, winning people to Marxism isn’t a matter of correcting liberal bullshit. Taking up Marxist thinking involves movement from two directions: realizing that liberal, capitalist ideology is defective, an inadequate way of understanding or changing the world; and entertaining a Marxist perspective on its own terms. Correcting liberal errors can play a role in the former but does nothing for the latter. And today, there is already a widespread sense that the consensus narrative is bankrupt.
The final consideration in explicitly embracing Marxism is that a Marxist framework does a better job of making sense of the world and orienting oneself towards political action within it than a liberal, capitalist framework does. The largest part of motivating such a judgment in favor of Marxism comes from engagement with Marxism itself, both analytically (theoretically) and practically (i.e., working with Marxists and Marxist organizations).
If it’s what I am thinking of it’s basically that it takes drastically more time and energy to dispute liberal bullshit than it does for them to make it up. Libs will just spew capitalist propaganda bullshit all day long because it’s easy. To refute every point takes drastically more time and energy from us to come up with sources, explanations, etc. So it’s a loosing battle to try and refute them if it takes you hours to debunk and takes them 10 seconds to spew more bullshit.
A corollary: the move from liberalism to Marxism is marked by a change in worldview as a whole. Like ‘paradigm shifts’ in the Kuhnian conception of scientific revolutions, ‘disruptive innovation’ under capitalism, or the qualitative character of change in dialectics, this transition is marked by a kind of incommensurability between two things, in this case the consensus point of view in liberal societies and the Marxist point of view.
Marxism isn’t a liberal, capitalist framework with a series of factual misapprehensions and faulty analytic judgments corrected, and for that reason, winning people to Marxism isn’t a matter of correcting liberal bullshit. Taking up Marxist thinking involves movement from two directions: realizing that liberal, capitalist ideology is defective, an inadequate way of understanding or changing the world; and entertaining a Marxist perspective on its own terms. Correcting liberal errors can play a role in the former but does nothing for the latter. And today, there is already a widespread sense that the consensus narrative is bankrupt.
The final consideration in explicitly embracing Marxism is that a Marxist framework does a better job of making sense of the world and orienting oneself towards political action within it than a liberal, capitalist framework does. The largest part of motivating such a judgment in favor of Marxism comes from engagement with Marxism itself, both analytically (theoretically) and practically (i.e., working with Marxists and Marxist organizations).
Great points.