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- cross-posted to:
- palestine
- videos@hexbear.net
- chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/829381
Hamas published yesterday an 18-minute long pre-recorded press conference in English about their side of the story.
This has received zero media attention anywhere in the western press.
So in the interest of full transparency, here is the entire press conference.
Watch the video through the link above.
Or just click here.
I don’t watch the news and only periodically see stuff like this. I’m using Wikipedia as my main reference to look at this; searching to just find a story confirming what’s on Wikipedia.
It looks like Hamas and cohorts crossed the border and killed hundreds of people. Back in Palestine, they are using otherwise occupied buildings as places to attack from.
I’m not sure what people expect Israel to do in this situation. If the ‘rule’ is to never attack back at someone using innocent human shields, the only people left alive will be those willing to use human shields.
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Thanks. The fundamental point seems to be that the people who did the attacks on Israel a few days ago basically see themselves as fighting occupation against a genocidal army.
I asked this same question somewhere else and got nearly the opposite response. Searching their keywords also provide what appear to be valid links and videos.
I sincerely appreciate you providing the links… but I think this is just a topic I’m going to stay mostly uneducated on beyond “this sucks for all the innocent people there.” Near as I can tell I could find horrible things on both sides of the story… will only be scratching the surface… and my final belief will just be based on what piece of the surface I scratch.
That’s because they literally are.
Imagine not knowing anything about something, talking out of your ass about it and then when given the opportunity to learn, choosing to be willfully ignorant. This kind of behavior disgusts me.
Well, we’re all that way about most everything. There are literally an unlimited number of things to know about. I’d much rather recognize I’ ignorant in it and consciously decide which ones I’m going to continue to be ignorant on; when I can.
If there was a clear answer here, I’d have gotten similar stories/perspectives from my queries. Maybe one with better trustworthy references. Instead I got two versions of history which each neglect certain parts, both of which appear to be factually correct, and both of which try to make the other side look like monsters. Since I am going to die one day, without ever being able to impact this situation, it is reasonable to bow out.
(As an example of where this has worked before, similar prior questions on things UBI, Georgian tax, and Taiwan have changed my mind.)
Yeah, no. Speak for yourself. It’s just an excuse to be ignorant.
There are actually pretty clear answers to “what caused the Israeli-Palestinian conflict”, but you’ve already demonstrated that you’re unwilling to learn about it, despite efforts from other comrades who have more patience than I.
Another bullshit cop out excuse to be ignorant. Must be nice to be that privileged to live like this.
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Here’s a primer.
Thanks for the snarkless reply/link. It really is appreciated.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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No investigation, no right to speak.
To make this explicit: ask questions that can help you investigate if you have not, e.g. “Did I understand this correctly or am I misunderstanding something important?”