Indian foreign ministry claims ‘security threats’ after Trudeau’s explosive allegation of state-sponsored killing mean it cannot provide visa services safely

India says it is indefinitely suspending visa services in all categories for all Canadian nationals due to “security threats” to its consulates, amid a furious diplomatic row between the two countries.

Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Arindam Bagchi said they have suspended “all categories” of visas, including e-visas and for Canadian citizens applying from third countries.

And India has also moved to downsize the Canadian diplomatic presence in New Delhi, saying that Canada has more embassy workers in its capital than visa versa and that it wants to restore “parity”.

It comes after Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau said there were “credible allegations” of the Indian state’s involvement in the murder of Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada, triggering a furious tit-for-tat row.

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    So pathetic from India - seeking to punish Canada for the fact that the Indian government murdered a Canadian in Canada, and Canada had the temerity to call them out for it.

    What an absurd victim complex Modi has.

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    "Canada and its growing reputation as a safe haven for terrorists, for extremists, and for organised crime. And I think that’s a country that needs to worry about its international reputation”

    Never thought I’d read a statement like that from someone who was serious.

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        Not sure why this is getting downvoted, the Canadian housing market has been the place to park foreign money for years. Is one of the main reasons why Vancouver is so expensive. You can correlate the price of housing in BC to Xi’s crackdowns, Brexit, or MBS taking over in Saudi. Also true for BTC.

        Send some goofball nephew from China/India/Russia/etc. to school at Simon Frasier or whatever D-tier local school is in Richmond BC so that the proiperty is occupied, then take a reverse mortgage out against that and buy more property. Funnel money through said nephew to pay off the mortgage, then rent out the other properties. Or create shell companies in BC, have them cut deals with foreign companies, fail to deliver, lose a court case, and then have the court rulings sent to the BC company tax free since settlements aren’t taxed.

        Generally true in the GTA, and the big Alberta cities to lesser extents.

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          Having worked in corporate finance for years, anecdotally it was always explained that with China as an example people would purchase real estate because it was the hardest thing for the CCP to claw back once the money left China. If the CCP wants what you own, they will take it. They can’t easily take back 100 apartments in downtown Surrey.

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    Way to make everybody believe your government did actually murder somebody in Canada, Modi.

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    The Modi govt has surpassed its own stupidity . They’ve officially labeled Canada an international terrorist sanctuary — “a safe haven for terrorists, for extremists, and for organized crime,” in the words of the Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson. I’ve just posted on this zine

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    Sometime i think Modi studied from the same school where Xi Jinping and putin pass out.

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      I suspect that’s why this is happening. India - like China and Russia - may view its diaspora as an indirect projection of its own power.

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        How? You think Indians move to other countries to make them more like India? Sure as hell isn’t the case with the ones I know.

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        eh not so sure. China has explicitly tried very hard to portray the west as racist and crime ridden to ensure that their best and brightest who go to foreign schools come home. They then started setting up secret policing in Canada and the US when those efforts didn’t work well.

        India has been doing the same, trying to claw back their own and limit the influence of their citizens abroad. Especially cuz those citizens are often educated and wealthy. Saw something in the US about how Indians are, overall, the wealthiest group since there are relatively few of them compared to other minorities, and they’re overwhelmingly in STEM or other lucrative fields.

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      The amount of Indians living in Canada is crazy, really. A few years ago during Covid I arrived in Vancouver airport and literally thought that I took a wrong plane somewhere and arrived in India instead.

      There were only Indian personnel everywhere until I arrived at the border security. Everyone else is Indian. Then in Vancouver itself, I’d guess that 30% of the people are Indian. It’s crazy enourmous really

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    Wow who would have thought, India is winning the North Korea speed run challenge.

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    Its funny coz I think Modi thinks people are dying to visit India.🤣🤣 its like Taliban thinking Afghanistan is the most developed country in the world.🤣🤣🤣

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        Indian here. You should know the holiness of a place here is proportional to the amounth of filth around it /s. And dont visit Ganges plains. South is fine and so is Himalaya and north east. Avoid the cow belt.

        Modi likes to pose macho especially when his followers like it. A bit of like Elon Musk if you ask me. He never said a thing about Chinese trangession in North East where we lost land. But he found soft targets in Canadians.

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          “Modi likes to pose macho” I had no idea he did these antics too, but it’s not surprising, every authoritarian conservative likes to pose as a strongman. Putin, Xi, Trump, Bolsonaro…

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        Enjoy a sunset paddleboat ride down the Ganges, just nudge the floating corpses out the way.

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        Don’t know if you have ever visited the US, but I was not expecting what we found. Worst was the constant begging. People tapping on the windows of the car when we stopped at intersections, chasing us around shopping centres and along streets, and begging on train stations, expecting “tips” for returning a bag they had stolen out of my hand (sometimes, jetlag didn’t help me be fast enough) or “tips” for giving directions I didn’t want, need, or ask for. They constantly expected money to be handed to them.

        It was shocking how the roads were broken, the shops had no electronic payment, the coins were worth practically nothing, the paper money was literally paper scrip and not holographic or durable, and the buildings were rotting apart. People were dying on the footpaths. Crowds of dirty people. Rubbish everywhere. But worst was the begging.

        Oddly, Canada isn’t like that. If you ever visited the US, India is similar, but not unexpected the way the US is.

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      As they should, India is an amazing and very unique country

      Why on Earth am I being downvoted. You guys need to leave your basement once in a while

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        I didn’t downvote, but nothing is “very unique” for the same reason that nobody is “very pregnant”.

        Either it is unique or it is not.

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          I disagree.

          “Very” unique indicates being unique in more ways and/or in more severe ways.

          Similarly, being “very pregnant” would be at about eight months or perhaps carrying more than one child. In the present of someone that is a month pregnant, it may hardly impact their day to day living, and you can’t tell.

          Yes, technically the words are Boolean, but the reality makes sense.

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            “Very” unique indicates being unique in more ways and/or in more severe ways.

            The term you’re looking for is “very unusual”.

            Similarly, being “very pregnant”

            LOL, ok now say to a pregnant woman, “I don’t think you’re very pregnant”. Please report back to us with her response.

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              Perhaps you haven’t heard or read those before, but they’re very much valid (😉). The downvotes are overwhelming and can’t possibly -imho- reflect disagreement over my wording. I’m pretty sure it has to do with India, but I don’t know why. Is there a particular anti-India sentiment I didn’t know about ?

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                Well, there is definitely an anti-assassination sentiment. Probably why Saudi Arabia doesn’t get much love either.

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    Modi going full-bore with Kremlin tactics and methods emulating his pal, Putin.

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      India seems to be one of their biggest sources of immigrants. Looks like they hoover up tech workers.

      Likely works in Canada’s favour to not do the same.

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            There is none. Expats are immigrants that don’t like to be associated with immigrants from poorer countries.

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            Not sure if this is a serious question or not.

            There is no difference between an expat and an immigrant. It’s a term white people like to use to avoid calling themselves immigrants, because in their mind that’s a term reserved for brown people…

            Edit: I am a white btw

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            Expats are what white people call themselves because they think “immigrants” sounds low class. There is no difference. You mostly see it from American and Western Europeans when they move abroad.

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                microdosing [ˈmīkrōˌdōsiNG] NOUN

                the action or practice of taking or administering very small amounts of a drug in order to test or benefit from its physiological action while minimizing undesirable side effects:
                "microdosing would allow tiny amounts of new drugs to be safely given to human volunteers"
                

                It’s a method currently being used to test very small doses of psychedelics, to see the effects on mental disorders.

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            You have a bunch of wrong answers.

            Expats intend to go back to their home country after some time.

            Immigrants intend to stay at their destination country.

            Granted the term is misused by white people who want to call themselves expats instead of calling themselves immigrants.

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            An expat is a person who resides abroad for work for a fixed period and intents to move back home once their contract has ended. However the term expats is used by high educated immigrants who don’t want to be called immigrants especially white people.

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            Immigrants intend to become citizens of their new country. Expats work there under temporary residence conditions and return home or to their next posting when done.

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        Green cards (permanent resident card) in the US are processed in queues. The queues are based on your country of birth. Last I checked Chinas queue time is around 5 years whereas Indias is around 10 years.

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    Is India such a popular destination for Canadians ? I mean who is hurt more in this “he`s done it, so i pay back” game?

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      Something like 7% of Canada’s population is South Asian. I don’t know what percentage of that has Canadian citizenship and is specifically from India, but I’d guess there are a fair number of people who won’t be able to visit family now. It’s a shitty way to retaliate, but not unsurprising coming from Modi.

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        Well those who come from India they don’t need visa and second generation of original immigrants might not have such a tight relations on average as they have lived whole life in Canada. Then how many Canadians work in India in comparison to how many Indians work in Canada. I’m just guessing here but somehow I think Indians are hurting their own people. If it’s about tourism , then again who needs tourism more if we count only tourists from these two countries visiting each other.

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          Interesting. I do passport applications (granted, in the US, so not completely the same), but I see a fair amount of 2nd gen Indians who are going to India. Lots of people going for weddings or young adults visiting grandparents or taking their own babies to meet the extended family. Regardless, it’s super petty.

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            they hurt their own people in sense not Canadians in general. (Graparents won’t see their grandchildren etc)

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      I doubt there are many Canadians who go there for leisure, but for work? I bet there’s quite a few of them.

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        Do you think more Canadians work in India or vice versa? I don’t know but somehow I get feeling Indians like working for higher $$$ in the west then Canadians in the India.

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      it ain’t the white ones who are going, it’s the 2nd generation (or later) Indians in Canada who may have issues. “with us or against us, pick a side, otherwise you’re not going to visit Grandma”

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    I’ve followed the headlines on this but I just don’t get it.

    India is pissed they were called out? They didn’t consider a cranky Canadian outcome before hand? Or is Canada flinging wild accusations that are unjustified with the information at hand?

    These diplomats need to chillax and go back to being diplomatic before legitimate Canadian expats in India and legitimate Indian expats in Canada start to feel the brunt of this.

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      There is strong evidence that hasn’t been released but leaked sources claim one of the two killers(captured) have ties to Indian Intelligence the other being an Indian diplomat(uncaptured). This means it’s a direct attack on a Canadian on Canadian soil by a foreign agent.

      India is pissed because Canada harbored an alleged terrorist. Even though the terrorist in question was freed by the Indian government and was not wanted by Interpol.

      The Indian government is currently genociding its Sikh population and calls anyone outspoken about these actions as terrorist.

      This action of closing immigration from Canada is to get an equal reaction. India want to stop all of their skilled and intelligent people from leaving to Canada.

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      Canada seems to have pretty credible evidence for it. India seems to be doubling down in indignation rather than apologize or admit they did anything wrong.

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    Wow damn if we don’t somehow rescue the USA in our elections in 2024 these dictator countries have their eyes on taking over. Kinda obvious with the whole BRICS thing.