Today was the first day that both our kids are in day-care all day. Effectively the end of our parental leave. Me and my SO decided to treat ourselves to a movie and saw Barbie. We figured if the conservative sphere was getting pissy about it, it must be good.

Anyone else see it?

I wasn’t expecting much. I have to say, I don’t think I could have ever expected this movie to be what it was. It’s campy, funny, colorful, and steps on your throat with it’s message and hardly let’s it off. I say that as positivity as someone can.

It’s amusing to me that some people think the movie is anti-man. It did make me feel mournful for my daughters inevitable loss of innocence. A corporate, big budget toy advertisement of all things. I think that’s the most surprising part. In some ways Barbie is the most unlikely and perfect vehicle for what the movie has to say.

I don’t know. It’s conflicting because, at the end of the day it’s a huge corporate puff peace, but also… What else could deliver it’s message to so many people?

    • cfgaussian
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      1 year ago

      I could not have said it better myself. We need to be much more critical especially of media that purports to have some kind of “radical” or “subversive” message because i guarantee you, if it’s made it to the mainstream it most certainly does not. Products made by big corporations may carry superficially anti-corporate messages but in reality they just serve to reinforce consumerism by getting people to believe that by consuming they are doing something radical.

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      I agree, those who wanna watch it and enjoy it should do so without feeling bad about themselves or feeling especially accomplished for doing so

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      1 year ago

      completely agree with this take, it’s just more consumer activism/voting with your dollar bs.

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      1 year ago

      OP literally asked “Who saw it” and you respond “Haven’t seen it, don’t plan to, don’t care tbh” and then give an opinion…

      Unreal.

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          If you haven’t seen it and don’t care about it, then how are you able to discuss anything within the movie and give your opinion on its content?

          Imagine a film critic giving his opinion and in the end saying “I actually didn’t watch the movie”.

          You are just formulating an opinion based off of what you’ve heard other people say, and it comes across as pretty foolhardy and arrogant.

          The farmer example is also not applicable at all, because that’s still something you can research and find data on independently. You can’t independently gather data or an opinion on a movie. Unless you read the plot summary I guess, but that competently destroys the point of it being a movie.

          No investigation, no right to speak.

          And no, reading the plot summary or watching a YouTube analysis isn’t investigation.

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              1 year ago

              That is excellent investigation comrade. Everyone knows that Comrade Shapiro’s analyses are so bulletproof and awe inspiring and you don’t even need to watch the movie after listening to him.

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          Eh, had a response for you but clearly by your post history it would have been a waste of time. You don’t get it and you won’t. Take care.

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      You can make this same statement, which I don’t disagree with, about every film. It’s technically correct, which is the more boring kind of correct. Since most Normans are not at that point on the ideological world view scale, the movie exists in a whole different context for them. I think giving the Norman cultural context, this movie is subversive by that standard. It exists in a state of equilibrium between corporate revisionism and subversive cultural critique. Any tip of the scale in one direction or the other leads to either a vapid mass market blockbuster or a wildly unwatchable but biting satire that no one bothers to see.

      We could discuss those ideas, but I think you would need to see the film in order to critique it for it’s content. Otherwise, we can return to the time honored traditions and write long winded shibboleths back and forth to each other, like two squawking crows at dawn, broadcasting our belief systems to the greater murder, without really saying anything of substance.