China’s workers pay 2 USD for a doctor’s visit.
What western leftists?
Love how you can see the US lobbing missiles at Iran right now while China is doing none of that, and never analyze why one is doing that and the other isn’t.
Their counterargument to this usually is that China will eventually, see inevitably, invade Taiwan one day. Their whole imperialism claim is founded on the hypothetical and uncertain supposition that, in an unspecified time in the future, the PRC is going to invade the unrecognized Chinese government (aided and maintained by the imperialist West) that is Taiwan.
PRC is going to invade the unrecognized Chinese government (aided and maintained by the imperialist West) that is Taiwan.
Hopefully China fucking levels every Taiwanese military base and murders every imperialist soldier in there in a pile of their shit, puke and guts. Usually I’m just honest with them and say “Good.”
China is playing the long game. Eventually, the people of Taiwan will elect a pro-PRC leaning government and will be reunited with the mainland thru osmosis. Like all capitalist countries, Taiwan is suffering a cost of living crisis, high housing costs, and high unemployment, so there is an outflow of the educated young, across the strait to the PRC.
Eventually, the people of Taiwan will elect a pro-PRC leaning government and will be reunited with the mainland thru osmosis.
Don’t think America will allow that. We know what America does.
I’m not sure I agree with the idea that a Pro-PRC will be elected, pr at least I don’t think that would be the cause, ad much as I think the Taiwanese bourgeoisie will eventually recognize that reuniting with China will be more benifecial than falling on the sword for the US.
That would undeniably lead to a pro-PRC election result due to the nature of bourgeois democracies, but I digress.
If someone says this view is misguided please correct me so I may learn.
“Two things can be bad at the same time!1111” - the liberal mantra.
doublethink jorjor wel
that just means they’re doing something even worse!
To indulge in personal attacks, pick quarrels, vent personal spite or seek revenge instead of entering into an argument and struggling against incorrect views for the sake of unity or progress or getting the work done properly. This is a fifth type
I should add Reasons:
Liberals are more or less powerless. they’re just a fruit that’s being used to syphon resources out of. It’s not productive to hate them, there’s no reason to manufacture hate towards them, people who are effected by their inactions already hate them. That’s what’s so difficult about it.
People are shaped by their material reality, you turn your material reality into digging up pits, you ideologically become a Nazi, because of the material reality created. Our purpose is to destroy camps not build them.
I dissuade Party members from putting down people who do not understand. Even people who are unenlightened and seemingly bourgeois should be answered in a polite way. Things should be explained to them as fully as possible. I was turned off by a person who did not want to talk to me because I was not important enough. Maurice just wanted to preach to the converted, who already agreed with him. I try to be cordial, because that way you win people over. You cannot win them over by drawing the line of demarcation, saying you are on this side and I am on the other; that shows a lack of consciousness. After the Black Panther Party was formed, I nearly fell into this error. I could not understand why people were blind to what I saw so clearly. Then I realized that their understanding had to be developed.
— Huey P. NewtonWhat about Gulags?
Look I am really angry at a lot of people myself. I’ve lost friends I cared about.
But that’s just not how dialectical-materialism works. We don’t take a concept like GULAG, which is an acronym basically meaning HQ of Labor Camps and that’s what it should be translated to. Labor Camps. We don’t take that and try to see who we can fit into there, we look at problems and try to figure out solutions. Are you trying to solve labor shortage? Are you trying to educate people by making them work?
You can’t teach someone to think independently by threats or force, if they spit in your face ironically they probably have a better chance of rehab than someone who nods along and follows everything you say, on the inside they’ll be plotting to destroy you when they get out. You think you’ve created an awesome citizen by force look how nice they can follow all your orders, in reality what you did is dig your own grave.
Naah, reeducation is crucial for these people. Historically, they are the first ones to sell us to the fascists.
This person is pretty reactionary when it comes to sinophobic propaganda.
Thé trouble is we were born in it. Since I joined hexbear the mask is cracking hard but I think Americanist are far deeper in this.
The person who started the linked thread who was praising China is a self-described “misplaced Kentuckian”, e.g. they are from the US. The one who was being an ultra is probably western too based on how they talk, but it’s not obvious from their profile alone and their profile has a Kurdish slogan; my read of it is, likely a westerner who puts certain Kurdish movements on a pedestal.
That said, I don’t know who the fuck the “we” is supposed to be who is putting western leftists in a “pit.” It reads a lot like PvP video game level of shit-talking with nothing behind it. If you’re not from the west, why would your priority be where western “leftists” go? And if you are, why would your priority be thoughts of putting some in a pit when the west’s biggest “left” problem is not even having political power in the first place, not the degree to which it leans ultra or not. The conclusion here doesn’t even make sense, considering the thread in question started from a westerner unashamedly praising China.
There are plenty of things to say about how absurd the positions of ultras can be. That’s what is important to focus on, not this empty posturing and hasty generalizing.
The western leftists support ‘liberation’ of Venezuelan and Iranian people that end up doing consent-manufacturing for the US invasions.
Ultras tend to do that, as do socdem reformist apologists for empire who style themselves as on the left, but they do it for different reasons. These terms exist for a reason. For example, an ultra is much closer to being an ML than a soc dem is. Ultras can be a problem because of wanting purity that doesn’t exist, while reformists can be a problem because of being unwilling to do fundamental change. The ultras may cry betrayal when a revolution attempts strategic retreat, as described here: https://peoplesdispatch.org/2026/03/03/tactical-retreats-why-venezuelas-revolution-still-stands/ (under the section “Negotiation under gunpoint: Brest-Litovsk in the Caribbean”). The reformists are more apt to be ones who are opposing revolution entirely and siding with the established order.
These are different kinds of issues. One is more of an internal issue in a revolutionary formation from people who are readily willing to do revolutionary work and step into danger but expect too much and lose sight of dialectical grounding. The other is more of an external issue from people who think the system can be changed from within and resist overthrow. In the west’s case, there is a problem in general with organizing getting past electoralism/reform brain.
Chinese imperialism
Are they mad about China invading Vietnam fifty years ago or is this some nonsense about China “imerializing” itself, e.g. muh Uyghurs and Tibetans? Or is low wages imperialism now?
not 5 but shooting them now would be a lot more beneficial for everyone
