• 201dberg
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    I hope the influence of China pushes for a stronger socialist movement within Russia. I am intrigued to see how the neo liberals on charge react to a growing movement, when they know that if they start using more violent means of reaction against them could draw the ire of their obvious communist allies.

    It seems inevitable that socialism continues to gain support when they are in such close ties with two major communist nations. If Russia start openly using military force against organized socialists, I wonder how the DPRK and China will react? I know they won’t do anything directly,but I’m sure they won’t be very supportive of it.

    Imo, if Putin and the neo liberals were smart, they would already be preparing to give up power softly when/if the time comes. If they do, they may just be able to hang onto some of their assets and wealth.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      Yeah, that’s my big hope as well. Now that the western liberalism is largely discredited in Russia, and all their core allies are socialist states, maybe it’ll start to rub off.

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        If Putin were to fully embrace communism, would he have the support to win an election?

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          I can’t really see him embracing communism to be honest. He’s been fairly vocal in saying he thinks USSR was a failure. But, people are starting to realize that not everything was bad in USSR, and that it got a lot of things right.

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            Hmm, are we coming to the place where “socialism” is “communism lite?” I’m really tired and probably shouldn’t be posting right now, but we’ll see.

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              In Marxist terminology, socialism is a transitional stage where existing capitalist relations persist, but the working class holds power in society. So, if Russia can get to a place where there is a communist party firmly in charge the way there is in China, then it would enter socialist stage of development.

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                I was speaking tongue in cheek, using it the way other instances do. My b.

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      It’s something I have been hoping for. Despite the constant propaganda by the West, Putin isn’t an idiot. He was around when the USSR was alive. Surely he knows that it’s inevitable that socialism will win. He can’t stop it. So I hope when the time comes, he knows there’s no way out and gives up power.

      But that’s an idealist stance. Capitalism isn’t overthrown that easily. Putin will be put on a pike by the oligarchs long before they give up their wealth.

      But then again, Russia is a unique case in the sense that it had a fully socialist economy, regressed, but still maintains its industrial base as well as socialist cultural elements from its history. And it was never infected with Western capitalism like former Soviet states. Systematic dismantling of communist elements never happened in Russia