Like the kind that made you stop and think for a second about how stupid the person advocating it is. For me, it’s the classic “The biggest mistake in recent history was the Allies not pushing into Russia after the fall of Berlin.”
There’s just a level of imperialist arrogance and blood thirst in there that makes my skin crawl. The worst thing in human history was that the US didn’t immediately betray the Soviets and wipe them out until they were sure communism was done for.
I once had a coworker fucking uno reverso card me when he started talking some weird white Islamo-nationalist shit and then went onto some really racist tirade against black folk.
He kept talking about the need to defend ones’ own people, so I brought up the Black Panthers and what they stood for, what they did in service to not only black people but for the people entirely. I told him they protected their own and that our state killed them for it.
He brought up Hitler. He said “just like Hitler, he was protecting his own”!
I don’t even remember what I said after that, I was flabbergasted and almost certain we were both wasted.
WHAT
Yeah, iirc he made mention of Farrakhan having some good ideas and having been inspired to read the Quran after getting out of prison. I made mention of Malcolm X and he said he’d look into him. Every time the question of fully blown segregation came up he 'Ahuhuah, I’m not like, totally racist or anything but you gotta admit that black people racist nonsense racist nonsense racist nonsense."
Something something black people for black people white people for white people, with extremely little interaction between them and like, ‘peaceful coexistence’ as separate ethnostates?
I think I remember pressing him quite a bit on shit, but he changed the subject when it became too critical or intense, and put up walls at certain points, “we’ve gotta defend our people” ??? who are our people? whites? Muslims? American whites only? Fuck, this shit is so incoherent. Defending ‘our people’ was a non-negotiable starting point.
Like I said, wasted, so I let it be and went on talking about our favorite cigarette brands or whatever. But I won’t ever forget it, and I won’t be so utterly stumped the next time I encounter political ideals in such eclectic and fucked up forms. That interaction inspired me to read the (an anglicized version of the) Quran, and as is common with religious texts – especially the high quality poetry as seen in the Quran – I found the meaning I wanted out of it, and that meaning was mostly quite lovely.
He, from my perspective, was projecting his fear and hatred onto Islam and the Quran and abusing them to solidify and justify his prejudices. He sought affirmation of his hate and he found it.