• darkernations
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    3 days ago

    Do you know any literature you could recommend please - if possible - that explores what you said? (Well before I came across ML I have long thought the flipside of the coin you are mentioning; that capitalism brings out the worst in society, the most sociopathic and malignant characteristics of what we consider the human condition is what is amplified, promoted and successful. However, I do not have a background in philosophy and I feel I have only scratched the surface of dialectics and materialism)

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      Not of top of my head, this was a realization I had a while back when I was chatting with a friend of mine about the fall of USSR and how quickly the society transformed itself under new social order. It does stem from dialectical analysis however.

      There is a central contradiction between the individual and society itself. Individuals are inherently driven by their personal interests and goals, shaped by their unique experiences and material circumstances. Conversely, society establishes a framework of rules, norms, and values, that arise from the material conditions and power dynamics within that society.

      Individuals strive to fulfill their desires within the constraints of societal expectations. Meanwhile, societal rules guide their behavior by establishing incentives and disincentives that either encourage or discourage specific actions. This dynamic relationship between personal desires and societal constraints is a dialectical process of constant tension and resolution. Individual actions challenge and reshape societal norms, just as societal changes can influence individual desires and behaviors.

    • I don’t have specific literature to recommend but you might be able to find literature in a similar vein which discusses this last paragraph of Ch. 2 of the Communist Manifesto:

      In place of the old bourgeois society, with its classes and class antagonisms, we shall have an association, in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all.

      I take this section to mean that the material interests of individuals is no longer in contradiction with, in fact completely bound up with the material interests of society at large. So the things which benefit society also directly benefit the individual. This is in comparison to capitalism where things which increase profit for capital are directly at odds with individual development.