Hey, comrades. I am new to lemmygrad and find it odd that there are so many marxist-leninist defending a war of agression started by an oligarch, possibly the richest man in the world. I get that you want to say that NATO is a source of evil on the global stage, but in this particular case you are defending Putin, a warlord, who has invaded many of his neighbouring countries and has stated plans to continue his campaign for megalomanial reasons.

No war but class war. Enabling an autocrat fascist oligarch does not do anything to counter the bad stuff done by NATO and the community should take a firm stand against the use of war for the sake of satisfying the dreams of a tyrant.

This is not a troll post or anything to that extent. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but I think it needed to be said.

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    Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.

    You are moralizing like a liberal. You are tone policing. And you are attempting to apply a veneer of principles (“No war but class war”) that belies your liberal history. That you “think it needed to be said” is more evidence of this. Hopefully by participating here, you will develop out of this infantile disorder.

    You said you “find it odd that there are so many marxist-leninist [sic] defending a war”. You then proceed to develop a strawman based entirely on subjective characterizations, Western propagandist claims, and even add moral components like “source of evil” and “megalomanial” [sic]. Here’s what’s actually happening.

    The global white supremacist capitalist hegemon continues it’s decades long process of encircling Russia and China with advanced nuclear capabilities in order to end the dynamic of MAD and make it possible for the US to use nuclear war as a viable threat again.

    The hegemon’s latest move was to establish the legal superstructure required to place advanced nuclear capabilities on the border between Russia and Ukraine - the same border that was used to invade Russia twice, the most recent being by the Third Reich.

    Russia decided, based on its military intelligence and strategic analysis, that if this deployment by the hegemon were to occur, it would be nearly unrecoverable without global conflagration. Were they right? We can never know. They get to decide, not us. We are not the ones being encircled, they are. We are not the ones with the intelligence briefings, they are. They made the decisions to stop the deployment and that meant engaging the proxy.

    This is a somewhat historically new proxy war formation in that the hegemon did not establish a proxy to launch an attack but rather established a proxy to engage in encirclement using the international rules-based order. Russia is fighting against public perception that hasn’t yet understood this as a proxy war, despite everyone knowing it’s a proxy war. Russia is fighting the US, there’s no question about that. Russia invaded Ukraine to fight the US. Ukraine is the proxy of the US.

    Anyone who has analyzed the world systems at play here understands that nuclear encirclement must be stopped and unilateral embargo must be stopped. These two things necessarily means the emergence of a multipolar world order. No one is cheering for the death of Ukrainians (unless they’re wearing Nazi symbols). No one is cheering for the destruction of civilian infrastructure. No one is cheering for millions displaced, for generational trauma, for brutality. No one is cheering for Putin to feel good about himself, or for Russians to satisfy an imagined bloodlust, or whatever delusions you hold.

    We are cheering for the evidence that supports the hypothesis that the hegemon is not as powerful as we previously believed. We are cheering for the evidence that the hegemon is not succeeding. We are cheering for the potential of the emergence of the multipolar world order.

    Pay attention. Cut the liberal cop out of your brain. Actually read and do analysis. Stop believing delusions even if they make you feel good.