• @nutomic@lemmy.mlOP
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    33 years ago

    Are you calling me media-illiterate and comparing me to a neonazi, or am I misunderstanding you? And I dont see what the USSR has to do with our discussion on China.

      • OdinTheProle
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        33 years ago

        the extreme left and right is like a horseshoe

        Horseshoe theory… I don’t even know where to begin.

        Do you realize how much of your claims rely on Nazi or Nazi adjacent historians? The Holodomor was a crisis that was spun by Nazi’s in order to claim that the USSR had committed a genocide that was worse than the one the Nazi’s committed. It was not even called the Holodomor until the 1980s where far right historians spun the story of the famine of the 30s to equate it to the Holocaust in order to continue an era of anti-communist propaganda that both the US and many other western nations were spitting out by the hundreds.

        You talk about media literacy like somehow we are unable to criticize western media for relying heavily on propagandized claims of stories that have been spun in order to make socialist thought of any kind seem immoral.

          • OdinTheProle
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            23 years ago

            You can call socialists that all you want but at the end of the day it is a word that has been so watered down it has no meaning.

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                3 years ago

                I really doubt that. Unless you are an Ultra in which case I am not surprised that you argue about these things the way that you do.

                Edit: nvm I just doubt it in whole. If you claim to be a socialist yet think Horseshoe theory is valid you either do not know what socialism is or rather you think that Social Democracy is a form of socialism. In which case I highly encourage you to read books about the subject from writers like Lenin, Marx, Engels, Mao, and many more before you claim to be a socialist. Otherwise you might just end up confusing a whole lot of socialists.

                • @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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                  23 years ago

                  I bet at this point he thinks national socialism (Nazism) is also socialism. I have met such people, often they are corrupt anarchists or right libertarians. In this case though I am unsure.

              • @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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                23 years ago

                You are not a socialist, you are either a corrupt neolib, or an ultra. nutomic told me I was too arrogant, but my Spidey senses were clearly working.

                You are a victim of the Cold War propaganda, that continues to date, humbly speaking. You might want to recalibrate your news media compass https://swprs.org/media-navigator/

      • @nutomic@lemmy.mlOP
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        23 years ago

        So all your comments were just so you could put me into a category of “bad tankie” or “decent person”? You never intended to have an actual discussion? You should have said so from the beginning, then I wouldnt have wasted my time responding to you.