Beijing is violating the Uighurs' human rights, but there's scant evidence of mass deaths. The U.S. should withdraw the genocide charges and support an...
Are you calling me media-illiterate and comparing me to a neonazi, or am I misunderstanding you? And I dont see what the USSR has to do with our discussion on China.
Horseshoe theory… I don’t even know where to begin.
Do you realize how much of your claims rely on Nazi or Nazi adjacent historians? The Holodomor was a crisis that was spun by Nazi’s in order to claim that the USSR had committed a genocide that was worse than the one the Nazi’s committed. It was not even called the Holodomor until the 1980s where far right historians spun the story of the famine of the 30s to equate it to the Holocaust in order to continue an era of anti-communist propaganda that both the US and many other western nations were spitting out by the hundreds.
You talk about media literacy like somehow we are unable to criticize western media for relying heavily on propagandized claims of stories that have been spun in order to make socialist thought of any kind seem immoral.
I really doubt that. Unless you are an Ultra in which case I am not surprised that you argue about these things the way that you do.
Edit: nvm I just doubt it in whole. If you claim to be a socialist yet think Horseshoe theory is valid you either do not know what socialism is or rather you think that Social Democracy is a form of socialism. In which case I highly encourage you to read books about the subject from writers like Lenin, Marx, Engels, Mao, and many more before you claim to be a socialist. Otherwise you might just end up confusing a whole lot of socialists.
I bet at this point he thinks national socialism (Nazism) is also socialism. I have met such people, often they are corrupt anarchists or right libertarians. In this case though I am unsure.
You are not a socialist, you are either a corrupt neolib, or an ultra. nutomic told me I was too arrogant, but my Spidey senses were clearly working.
You are a victim of the Cold War propaganda, that continues to date, humbly speaking. You might want to recalibrate your news media compass https://swprs.org/media-navigator/
So all your comments were just so you could put me into a category of “bad tankie” or “decent person”? You never intended to have an actual discussion? You should have said so from the beginning, then I wouldnt have wasted my time responding to you.
Comparing communists to Nazi’s is a disgusting point of argument. You cannot compare the current Chinese state or their supporters with literal white supremacists who have no other drive than to create ethnostates that wipe out all identities that stray from normal.
If you genuinely believe that there is a moral equivalence to being a nazi and being a communist you have no clear bearings on history or the evidence history provides us to prove your claims false.
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You use so strong words … what genocide under the USSR you are talking about?
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Are you calling me media-illiterate and comparing me to a neonazi, or am I misunderstanding you? And I dont see what the USSR has to do with our discussion on China.
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Horseshoe theory… I don’t even know where to begin.
Do you realize how much of your claims rely on Nazi or Nazi adjacent historians? The Holodomor was a crisis that was spun by Nazi’s in order to claim that the USSR had committed a genocide that was worse than the one the Nazi’s committed. It was not even called the Holodomor until the 1980s where far right historians spun the story of the famine of the 30s to equate it to the Holocaust in order to continue an era of anti-communist propaganda that both the US and many other western nations were spitting out by the hundreds.
You talk about media literacy like somehow we are unable to criticize western media for relying heavily on propagandized claims of stories that have been spun in order to make socialist thought of any kind seem immoral.
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You can call socialists that all you want but at the end of the day it is a word that has been so watered down it has no meaning.
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I really doubt that.
Unless you are an Ultra in which case I am not surprised that you argue about these things the way that you do.Edit: nvm I just doubt it in whole. If you claim to be a socialist yet think Horseshoe theory is valid you either do not know what socialism is or rather you think that Social Democracy is a form of socialism. In which case I highly encourage you to read books about the subject from writers like Lenin, Marx, Engels, Mao, and many more before you claim to be a socialist. Otherwise you might just end up confusing a whole lot of socialists.
I bet at this point he thinks national socialism (Nazism) is also socialism. I have met such people, often they are corrupt anarchists or right libertarians. In this case though I am unsure.
You are not a socialist, you are either a corrupt neolib, or an ultra. nutomic told me I was too arrogant, but my Spidey senses were clearly working.
You are a victim of the Cold War propaganda, that continues to date, humbly speaking. You might want to recalibrate your news media compass https://swprs.org/media-navigator/
ok, I’m not a tankie, communist or socialist, but a quick search in Wikipedia shows that even historians don’t agree on whether it was a genocide or not.
So all your comments were just so you could put me into a category of “bad tankie” or “decent person”? You never intended to have an actual discussion? You should have said so from the beginning, then I wouldnt have wasted my time responding to you.
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So what. Go back to the Reddit circlejerk if you cant handle the fact that people have different opinions.
Comparing communists to Nazi’s is a disgusting point of argument. You cannot compare the current Chinese state or their supporters with literal white supremacists who have no other drive than to create ethnostates that wipe out all identities that stray from normal.
If you genuinely believe that there is a moral equivalence to being a nazi and being a communist you have no clear bearings on history or the evidence history provides us to prove your claims false.
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