What does “a higher stage of Marxism” mean?
Also I’m pretty sure that the government structures of Babylon are not of any significant power in the 21st century.
If I am to steelman his position, it sounds like he’s describing what was described in Lennin’s Imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism, but thinks that he has discovered something new. Also he seems to like using conservative shibboleths like “globalist”.
In short, we are approaching a multi-polar world and a higher stage of imperialism at the same time?? Maoists and western leftist are useless and might as well be trots. They want to work with the theories of the Midwestern Marx (because terminally online people don’t do praxis). Duganism thinks that ML’s desire for secular values is bad for some reason? The east and south (wherever that is) are cool people?? Christians and Muslims in the global south are fighting imperialism (but isn’t that because of their material interests not their religion?) We should create a multipolar world against imperialism, but call imperialism “Babylon” because it sounds cool to religious people.
It seems like an idea combining lenin’s imperialism with the reactionary essentialist notion of “clash of civilizations”
so, these patsocs are pro Muslim and pro Christian in coalition but anti zionist and anti secular, but ignore that the most successful socialist movements are secular movements? I don’t know their particular position on Jewish people in general, but this seems like Strausserism that is pro Muslim and Christian, but not chauvinist towards either in particular. They call a multipolar world a more “advanced marxism”, but Marx’s analysis is mostly domestic and with a multi-polar world the economics becomes more of a domestic class struggle because multi-polarity is reversing imperialism, so are they classical marxists? If it seems that they abandoned the clash of civilizations nonsense, they’d just be classical Marxists. You can oppose oppose the Zionist colonialism just by being principled in opposing imperialist colonialism. Also there are Muslims and Christians also work in the apparatus of imperialism, which implies that religion is not a factor of imperialism. IDK maybe they are just anti semetic reactionaries that want to pretend that they are on the left for some reason.
Everyone wants to be Lenin…some don’t want to put in the work of actually becoming a Marxist on par with Lenin in their own rights, no, so instead they simply stand upon the highest mountain with a bullhorn and proclaim it so.
You know the typical insecure male? Picture him walking into a motorshop. He asks the mechanic what’s wrong with his car. The mechanic explains he has a crack in his radiator, and so he has been leaking coolant. Before he can finish the insecure man, feeling inferior and under personal attack for not knowing what is wrong with his car and for there being something wrong in the first place, interjects; “Oh yeah that, that’s what I thought was happening too, last week I over-torqued the carburetor when I jacked it up too high…guess I don’t know my own strength, hehe”. His car is a 2009 Honda, it doesn’t have a carburetor, nor could one jack one up. The mechanic knows these facts the same as we know Mr. Dialectics is also bullshitting, and likely for the same reasons as well.
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What does “a higher stage of Marxism” mean? Also I’m pretty sure that the government structures of Babylon are not of any significant power in the 21st century.
If I am to steelman his position, it sounds like he’s describing what was described in Lennin’s Imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism, but thinks that he has discovered something new. Also he seems to like using conservative shibboleths like “globalist”.
In short, we are approaching a multi-polar world and a higher stage of imperialism at the same time?? Maoists and western leftist are useless and might as well be trots. They want to work with the theories of the Midwestern Marx (because terminally online people don’t do praxis). Duganism thinks that ML’s desire for secular values is bad for some reason? The east and south (wherever that is) are cool people?? Christians and Muslims in the global south are fighting imperialism (but isn’t that because of their material interests not their religion?) We should create a multipolar world against imperialism, but call imperialism “Babylon” because it sounds cool to religious people.
It seems like an idea combining lenin’s imperialism with the reactionary essentialist notion of “clash of civilizations”
I think they updated it somewhat seeing as Dugin is now very religious chauvinist.
so, these patsocs are pro Muslim and pro Christian in coalition but anti zionist and anti secular, but ignore that the most successful socialist movements are secular movements? I don’t know their particular position on Jewish people in general, but this seems like Strausserism that is pro Muslim and Christian, but not chauvinist towards either in particular. They call a multipolar world a more “advanced marxism”, but Marx’s analysis is mostly domestic and with a multi-polar world the economics becomes more of a domestic class struggle because multi-polarity is reversing imperialism, so are they classical marxists? If it seems that they abandoned the clash of civilizations nonsense, they’d just be classical Marxists. You can oppose oppose the Zionist colonialism just by being principled in opposing imperialist colonialism. Also there are Muslims and Christians also work in the apparatus of imperialism, which implies that religion is not a factor of imperialism. IDK maybe they are just anti semetic reactionaries that want to pretend that they are on the left for some reason.
Everyone wants to be Lenin…some don’t want to put in the work of actually becoming a Marxist on par with Lenin in their own rights, no, so instead they simply stand upon the highest mountain with a bullhorn and proclaim it so.
You know the typical insecure male? Picture him walking into a motorshop. He asks the mechanic what’s wrong with his car. The mechanic explains he has a crack in his radiator, and so he has been leaking coolant. Before he can finish the insecure man, feeling inferior and under personal attack for not knowing what is wrong with his car and for there being something wrong in the first place, interjects; “Oh yeah that, that’s what I thought was happening too, last week I over-torqued the carburetor when I jacked it up too high…guess I don’t know my own strength, hehe”. His car is a 2009 Honda, it doesn’t have a carburetor, nor could one jack one up. The mechanic knows these facts the same as we know Mr. Dialectics is also bullshitting, and likely for the same reasons as well.
*Lenin