Perhaps it’s a bit of both, with a healthy dose of smug sense of superiority (in a “I’m smarter than everyone else” kind of way). Even the ostensibly anti-nazy subs (such as shitwehraboossay) have been gradually shifting the narrative from “Allies and USSR fought the axis together” to “two totalitarian regimes clashed in Europe, then USA stepped in to save the day, also nukes were justified and were not at all a reaction to possible Soviet action in the Pacific”
Operation Barbarossa generally isn’t one of anticommunists’ favorite subjects (they seem to consider the German–Soviet Pact of ’39 a thousand times more important), but when they do get around to discussing it their strategy is to exculpate the Axis invaders and their collaborators as much as possible while demonizing the Soviets and blaming them for everything. See the comment section here for a good example.
As for the Soviet victory, that was a stroke of sheer luck: Axis victory would have been certain were it not for the U.S.’s crappy Lend–Lease program and the intense weather (an entirely ‘irrelevant’ factor in the context of Sino–Soviet famines, but not here!).
two totalitarian regimes clashed in Europe
Underneath this shallow surface it soon becomes clear that there is very little of substance other than (passive–aggressive) Axis apologetics, as you likely already know.
Nevertheless, it does give me the idea to closely examine actual examples of fascist infighting (e.g. Austria 1938, Greece 1941) and compare them with how the German Reich mistreated the Soviets. Although you could argue that the death counts alone would answer that, at least in a ‘tl;dr’ sort of way.
It is estimated that at least 3.3 million Soviet POWs died in Nazi custody, out of 5.7 million. This figure represents a total of 57% of all Soviet POWs and it may be contrasted with 8,300 out of 231,000 British and U.S. prisoners, or 3.6%.
Replies like those are why I’m convinced that Reddit has a pretty substantial portion of pro‐Axis members.
(Unless, I suppose, their ignorance of history is so appalling that they can’t even summarize what Operation Barbarossa was.)
Perhaps it’s a bit of both, with a healthy dose of smug sense of superiority (in a “I’m smarter than everyone else” kind of way). Even the ostensibly anti-nazy subs (such as shitwehraboossay) have been gradually shifting the narrative from “Allies and USSR fought the axis together” to “two totalitarian regimes clashed in Europe, then USA stepped in to save the day, also nukes were justified and were not at all a reaction to possible Soviet action in the Pacific”
Operation Barbarossa generally isn’t one of anticommunists’ favorite subjects (they seem to consider the German–Soviet Pact of ’39 a thousand times more important), but when they do get around to discussing it their strategy is to exculpate the Axis invaders and their collaborators as much as possible while demonizing the Soviets and blaming them for everything. See the comment section here for a good example.
As for the Soviet victory, that was a stroke of sheer luck: Axis victory would have been certain were it not for the U.S.’s crappy Lend–Lease program and the intense weather (an entirely ‘irrelevant’ factor in the context of Sino–Soviet famines, but not here!).
Underneath this shallow surface it soon becomes clear that there is very little of substance other than (passive–aggressive) Axis apologetics, as you likely already know.
Nevertheless, it does give me the idea to closely examine actual examples of fascist infighting (e.g. Austria 1938, Greece 1941) and compare them with how the German Reich mistreated the Soviets. Although you could argue that the death counts alone would answer that, at least in a ‘tl;dr’ sort of way.
This is even in wikipedia.
Thank you for the links!