Welcome again to everybody! Make yourself at home. Sit down in that sweat-stained bean bag chair over there. In the time-honoured tradition of our group, here is our weekly discussion thread!

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  • DankZedong A
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    171 year ago

    There is a big amount of whacko pseudoscience bullshit in the vegan community and I hate it. I don’t want your hand picked magical mountain salt that can cute cancer and deliver world peace, I just don’t want to hurt animals mate.

    • 小莱卡
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      81 year ago

      Kinda interesting how that stuff happens everywhere. Like here in mexico alternative medicine and witchcraft(?) are incredibly popular especially in rural areas, one would think its because their lack of education but then you see people from wealthy backgrounds all over the world into astrology.

      • DankZedong A
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        111 year ago

        Yup. Amsterdam has a lot of well educated leftist people being very anti vax for example. I’ve read some shit a while ago about how, sometimes, the higher up the education ladder you get, the more sensitive you get for that shit despite you being able to do your own research. Actually, doing their own research may be the thing that gets them there.

        Must add that my comment wasn’t meant to bash traditional medicine of, for example, indigenous people. Especially since I’ve done a lot of reading on that kind of stuff lol. But be realistic please. Some obscure salt or oils will probably not save you from cancer.

        • 小莱卡
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          71 year ago

          Its very hit or miss, without much scientifical proof id think that the effectiveness comes mostly from a placebo effect. But then again i remember having this strong concoction, from a friend at college that came from a very rural background, that instantly cured my flu lol.

          • DankZedong A
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            81 year ago

            Yeah some people have these sort of gifts I guess. My grandma had a sister that would draw a cross with her finger on any wart you had and it would be gone the next day. I was never able to explain that, but it worked, every single time. Very bizarre. I will never rule out some old wisdom.

    • @CannotSleep420
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      51 year ago

      I have an uncle that makes a living practicing alternative medicine. Shit like shakes and accupuncture. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a medical degree or anything, but people still see him for various ailments.

      • 小莱卡
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        51 year ago

        Alternative medicine businesses are incredibly lucrative, i am the landlord off a small shop and these dudes be riding the latest and most deluxe versions of trucks in the market lol. The suppliers for these businesses are mostly people from the “sierra” ( mountains ) that are incredibly isolated and thus get paid nearly nothing for their labor.