As communists, we understand the causes of many of our woes in the modern life (i.e. class warfare, exploitation, etc), we are also not the most spiritual folks (at least from my anecdotal experience). Both things usually don’t mix well with this now trending topic of meditation and mindfulness in the West. Unfortunately, as with everything on capitalism, meditation was commodified, and often as not sold as the new snake-oil for mental health and improvement of lifestyle for the mordem working class of big cities, masking the causes of the many issues afflicting us in this late stage capitalism. HOWEVER, we know that meditative practices predate capitalism by several centuries. Also, anyone who’s been serious on the practice, knows that there is much more to meditation than what your mindfulness app endorsed by The Economist is promising you (helping fall asleep, focus, put up with your insufferable boss or wtv). So I’ll stop rambling and just go to my question: anyone has any Marxist oriented views on meditative practices? It’s something that interests me much, since the practice is totally self-oriented, and so, much less likely to be subject of socialism/communism discussions, but at the same time, in the East the practice is much more common and widespread, so in China, for example, there must be some interesting views on this.

    • KiG V2
      4•2 years ago

      Deranged parapsychology is my middle name 🤩🤩🤩

      What are PK trials? Are you trying to telekinetically affect random number generators, is that what you’re saying?

      I relate strong to your experience with strange effects while meditating…if I meditate with my eyes open I can turn the entire world into, like, washed out high contrast static. And if I do it with my eyes closed I can see colors. If I focus my awareness towards my forehead…well…[REDACTED]

        • KiG V2
          3•2 years ago

          (Sorry for late reply!! 😖)

          WOW this is AWESOME interesting!!

          The fact that you would do all of this while NOT believing in it is truly remarkable. What led you to being some interested in these fields?

          What is reverse imposition from tulpamancy? I have only dabbled around tulpamancy, what is your experience with it?

          I hope in your endeavor to cross the bridge between the hard sciences as we know them today and the untamed world of beyond can be helped in some small way by my experience:

          As someone who regularly (especially in the past, not much for a year or three but slowly slowly slowly getting back into it) has been involved with this sort of stuff to various depths I can say that, unfortunately something seemingly irrelevant and sappy like a lack of faith absolutely can make a difference. “Magick” or whatever big umbrella term we want to call it has always worked best for me when I 1) believed in it and myself, 2) when I was doing it for benevolent/benign purposes (however this might be related to the Abrahamic-like questionably existent entity from which I draw my belief and thus power), 3) when I was clear (e.g. not on “the bullshit,” be it socializing or technology or ego or fear etc.) and 4) when…well when “it felt right,” I can feel it in my bones and the times I have tried to “force it” outside of the “right time” I have often failed, which I feel like relates heavily to #3.

          Also, from my past experiences, I would say that something like the trials you are conducting would work much better if the “RNG” was a living being, particularly someone you have a very deep emotional/spiritual/etc. connection with, although I can appreciate that doing this with a machine will lead to much more usable, undeniable, clean results. I believe everything you are doing is absolutely possible to achieve through the M.O. you are using–not only possible but very valuable to us as an entire species and culture–but that due to its very nature it will be extra extra difficult with these methods.

          Meditating before your trials is definitely one method that I am not surprised would help, with the added benefit of it not being totally “woo-woo” and thus not tainting your results, such as more extreme, socially unaccepted, personalized methods might. I have never tried sensory deprivation for several reasons (mostly circumstance) but I agree that that would also be an excellent option to explore.

          Would love to hear more!!!