To add about 3. - my current update on the state of mobilization is that there are problems, but not with motivation. On the contrary, mobilized soldiers shouting upwards resulted in some swift administrative unfucking of previously fucked shit, like people recieving rusty, fucked up AKs in one of the units - turned out some dipshit let water into one of the crates in storage(why would you give them to soldiers, you single-minded beurocrat…), AKs were replaced with well-kept ones (“in oil”-new the saying goes) within a day or two. Anyway, deputy Minister of Defence responsible for logistics got pwned to some other position(how about fucking prison?) and replaced with the general who was in charge of taking Mariupol. Can’t attest personally, of course, but word down military grape vine is that the guy is stern as they come and the word of his appointment alone made quartermasters shit bricks. Good, if true.
One thing I keep coming back to, with all the people talking about how Russia mobilizing their reserves as some sort of administrative and logistical folding, especially from the NATO “liberal intervention” types.
… The American National Guard alone deployed 300,000 troops to reinforce their military’s line basically immediately after Yankees crossed the border. This was against a completely isolated, mostly demilitarized force that had been in shambles since the gulf war and the Americans basically immediately called in their citizen-soldiers that are technically always supposed to have belong to the individual states for home defense and not a secondary reserve for the federal military. (That standard was erroded since the Second World War but post 9/11 was completely transformed into just a second pool of reserves to throw at international imperialist conflicts.)
I can’t even find the numbers on how many military reservists were mobilized, but given the heavy use of the “backdoor draft” of stop-loss to prevent reservists from rotating out of service I’d say it’s safe to assume that basically all their reserves where committed at some point. All this is to say that while I understand I can’t really weigh in on the experience of being in the Russian reserve and getting called to service if this is somehow proof of the entire Russian military buckling than brother…
What the fuck do you consider a model of success for muh superior liberal intervention?
Also, logistical problems stemming from the fact mobilization of this scale wasn’t done since…what, 1945(?) totally prove how aggressive and war-like Russia is. /s
I dunno, people have some mighty weird views on how military is supposed to work. For me, the fact SMO’s been going the way it’s been going with numerical inferiority this severe and refusal to destroy infrastructure is a fucking miracle already. No amount of wunderwaffe is gonna help you be everywhere at once, especially when the enemy gets reconnaissance from NATO satellites 24/7.
No bro. You don’t get it. The Marders and Leopard 1s are gonna arrive from Germany any day now bro, those Russian T34s won’t stand a chance next to our 70s surplus wunderwaffes, nevermind they’re operated completely differently from the Soviet equipment we’re trained on with multiple different mismatching ammo types!
EDIT: think I misunderstood what you said at first and see what you mean, but I still think it’s funny the copium of “western technological superiority” is going to save them.
Not shown is the heroic amount of paper work, administrative crunch and plain overtime to get all those clones equipped and their shipping presented that well for those corrupt bigwigs.
To add about 3. - my current update on the state of mobilization is that there are problems, but not with motivation. On the contrary, mobilized soldiers shouting upwards resulted in some swift administrative unfucking of previously fucked shit, like people recieving rusty, fucked up AKs in one of the units - turned out some dipshit let water into one of the crates in storage(why would you give them to soldiers, you single-minded beurocrat…), AKs were replaced with well-kept ones (“in oil”-new the saying goes) within a day or two. Anyway, deputy Minister of Defence responsible for logistics got pwned to some other position(how about fucking prison?) and replaced with the general who was in charge of taking Mariupol. Can’t attest personally, of course, but word down military grape vine is that the guy is stern as they come and the word of his appointment alone made quartermasters shit bricks. Good, if true.
One thing I keep coming back to, with all the people talking about how Russia mobilizing their reserves as some sort of administrative and logistical folding, especially from the NATO “liberal intervention” types.
… The American National Guard alone deployed 300,000 troops to reinforce their military’s line basically immediately after Yankees crossed the border. This was against a completely isolated, mostly demilitarized force that had been in shambles since the gulf war and the Americans basically immediately called in their citizen-soldiers that are technically always supposed to have belong to the individual states for home defense and not a secondary reserve for the federal military. (That standard was erroded since the Second World War but post 9/11 was completely transformed into just a second pool of reserves to throw at international imperialist conflicts.)
I can’t even find the numbers on how many military reservists were mobilized, but given the heavy use of the “backdoor draft” of stop-loss to prevent reservists from rotating out of service I’d say it’s safe to assume that basically all their reserves where committed at some point. All this is to say that while I understand I can’t really weigh in on the experience of being in the Russian reserve and getting called to service if this is somehow proof of the entire Russian military buckling than brother…
What the fuck do you consider a model of success for muh superior liberal intervention?
Also, logistical problems stemming from the fact mobilization of this scale wasn’t done since…what, 1945(?) totally prove how aggressive and war-like Russia is. /s
I dunno, people have some mighty weird views on how military is supposed to work. For me, the fact SMO’s been going the way it’s been going with numerical inferiority this severe and refusal to destroy infrastructure is a fucking miracle already. No amount of wunderwaffe is gonna help you be everywhere at once, especially when the enemy gets reconnaissance from NATO satellites 24/7.
No bro. You don’t get it. The Marders and Leopard 1s are gonna arrive from Germany any day now bro, those Russian T34s won’t stand a chance next to our 70s surplus wunderwaffes, nevermind they’re operated completely differently from the Soviet equipment we’re trained on with multiple different mismatching ammo types!
EDIT: think I misunderstood what you said at first and see what you mean, but I still think it’s funny the copium of “western technological superiority” is going to save them.
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Their view on how modern mobilization should look like is most probably this.
Not shown is the heroic amount of paper work, administrative crunch and plain overtime to get all those clones equipped and their shipping presented that well for those corrupt bigwigs.