Due to the recent ban of a wolfballs.com-user for “Bigotry and racism on his main account on Wolfball.” it is requested that Lemmy.ml updates the Code of Conduct to reflect actual moderation. Please consider adding that Lemmy.ml will ban users for comments made with other accounts on other instances.

  • @nutomic@lemmy.mlM
    -6•2 years ago

    You are proposing to change lemmy.ml rules so that users can be banned for activity on other sites. Your only argument for this rule change seems to be the claim that wolfballs.com is fascist. You havent shown any evidence to support this claim, and its far from obvious when browsing the site. So I dont see any justification for such a rule change.

    • @seanchai
      15•1 year ago

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      • @nutomic@lemmy.mlM
        -10•2 years ago

        So now you say that Masterofballs should be banned because of things that other people say on his instance, and because of posting memes?

        • @seanchai
          12•1 year ago

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          • @nutomic@lemmy.mlM
            -12•2 years ago

            Maybe we have a different view what fascism means. For me fascism is calling for physical violence, like murder or genocide. Not posting memes on the internet.

            • @seanchai
              16•1 year ago

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              • @nutomic@lemmy.mlM
                -10•2 years ago

                Im really losing track what you are arguing here. If you want to change the site rules of lemmy.ml, you should specifically suggest what the new rule(s) should be, and explain how that would improve the instance. Otherwise there is no point in continuing this discussion.

                But to be honest, you are not even registered on this instance, so I dont think you should have any right to influence the rules here.

                • @TheConquestOfBed@lemmy.ml
                  16•2 years ago

                  If you promote racist content you get banned, end of story. I literally pointed out a meme that’s racist against black people and latinos. I literally pointed to a thread where they’re disappointed reddit won’t let them call me and people like me a “groomer”. Do you not think the rhetoric will get worse if you let it spread?

                  Do you think I’m a groomer @nutomic@lemmy.ml ? Do you think that I want to sit at the same table as a guy who advertises that he thinks I’m a smoothbrain? I’ve done this song and dance before. If you let wolfballs stay you will invite ruin on this place and you will have no one to blame but yourself. This isn’t about fairness. It’s about survival.

                  I respected you as a dev, but this is where I draw the line, when you see some stupid ideal as more important than my humanity.

                • @seanchai
                  16•1 year ago

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            • comfy
              4•2 years ago

              I don’t think fascism can be described as those behaviors, it’s an ideology.

              Those two behaviors you described aren’t in isolation. Can’t a meme be fascist propaganda? Can’t a meme attempt to dehumanize or justify violence without calling for it? Is fascism only dangerous when it reaches the point of open violence?

              I don’t agree with the line of reasoning that ‘wolfballs is fascist’, I think that’s ignorant of what fascism is and why non-fascism can also be horrible, but I don’t think the ‘it’s just memes’ argument is helpful.