I would like to have a real discussion on how to prevent an authoritative communist economy or one without the present of a dictatorship. The major reason (in my opinion) why communism doesn’t work is because of greed and power, to many individuals want to manipulate and control the populace. How can we prevent a dictatorship rule and still have genuine communism. Even if you actually broke up cities, towns, municipals into “Communes” you still have the human emotion of jealously and selfishness. I love the idea of Communism and I have wrote a ton on the subject but I can’t come up with the idea of “protection” from itself.

I like how Godfree Roberts stated this https://www.quora.com/profile/Godfree-Roberts

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    However one of the major points of a communist state for freedom for everyone.

    “freedom” has no intrinsic value in itself. Freedom to do what? Being free from what?

    “It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed person, who goes about hungry, and cannot find employment. Real liberty can exist only where exploitation has been abolished, where there is no oppression of some by others, where there is no unemployment and poverty, where a man is not haunted by the fear of being tomorrow deprived of work, of home and of bread. Only in such a society is real, and not paper, personal and every other liberty possible.”

    Stalin

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      Maybe I’m more referring to an “Anarchic” system. Blockchain I mean as a way of preventing corruption using automation and contracts. Freedom I am referring to everyones’s right to free healthcare , education, shelter, and food. Communes , individual places like towns and cities and whatnot. Using a “contract” through blockchain to only have a consensus based on the rules governing those communes. Using a system like that makes it much harder for corruption to intertwine into the system itself. Take Stalin in Russia , making Ukrainians provide all the food. So I think technology if done correctly could really make communism an actual proof of concept of course the technology would have to expand to keep up with ideas and logical reasoning but I do believe it could work. The determining factor for having communism is for humans to be a “community” to work together based on a classes system.

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          I said its an idea not a perfect solution, and you don’t have to have huge wastage of resources to run a blockchain. I see all these posts on Reddit, forums, 3chan and other sites. Not a single one of them are actually talking about any kind solutions only that they want communism. That’s why I posted this is the first place, to talk about solutions to brainstorm ideas not just to tear my idea apart lol. Also you can enforce contracts via control systems like industrial control systems. Also blockchain doesn’t mean “currency” , its way to make sure nothing can be changed it immutable. Class collaborationism??? On my lemmygrad.ml??? – yep you have to learn by past mistakes right.

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              Great post , thank you for this. I will keep working on this idea. The reason “why decentralized” is because if its “Central” I can take over it , decentralized meaning I can’t especially using a blockchain or and immutable database.

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                  I’m not worried about “big companies FANG” with centralized systems. I am more worried about a “centralized place to hack”. It’s almost a 10x advantage to takeover a centralized server (or server farm) then it is to via P2P. Unless I can (theory) infect one client to distribute a virus and that’s even if the security controls are the same for all clients. Regardless of controls for a centralized system , you have too many bugs , and if that server software isn’t modular it only take one RCE exploit for me to own it (in theory).