Seems like copium is finally running low.

Jokes aside though, we’ve suspected numbers like this for a long time, but seeing them confirmed like this is shocking. Western delusions and chauvinism are murdering Ukrainians at an industrial rate. Being Western estimates they’re probably still lowballed as well.

Can’t find it right now, but iirc the BBC today reported Russia - excluding the PRs - suffered about 3.5k deaths total in 4 months. Still tragic, but Ukraine’s suffering that every every 3 weeks tops. Insanity.

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      I don’t remember the exact timeline, but that’s basically what happened around the Istanbul negotiations. Reports started coming out the Ukrainians were getting ready for concessions regarding Crimea and the PRs, neutral status, the Russians pulled out of Northern Ukraine and then suddenly all negotiations broke down followed by massive arms pledges by especially the UK and US. Reportedly Boris, like you said, told them they had to stop if they wanted further supplies.

      Same thing seems to have happened right at the start of the war. Russia came in all over the place with deep operations, threatening all major cities and forced the Ukrainians to come to the negotiation table asap. As we know those broke down after Western promises, among one of the negotiators getting executed.

      This carnage could’ve been prevented so many times over the last 8 years, but the nationalist forces in Ukraine and the broader West just couldn’t help themselves but to escalate further and further.

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      NATO should have to foot the bill for rebuilding the Ukraine.

      Fuckin barking bastards.

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