• @panic
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    142 years ago

    I believe poverty alleviation and stronger workers rights (if we can’t get socialism) is the best way to fight prostitution. And have programs that focus on marginalized people who turn to sex work (women, LGBT people, poor people, immigrants… sadly, teens). I’m against the legalization of buying sex and pimping but I don’t oppose explicit legal protections for sex workers like making sure you can’t evict sex workers or stop arrests for simply working and defending themselves from clients.

    • Breadbeard
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      02 years ago

      as much as i agree, pretending “poverty allevation” is on the horizon is just naive. it’s not coming for the foreseeable (pre-revolutionary) future. so why crack down on something for which no alternative is being given to the extent that sex workers would choose said alternative. and i m not talking about forced prostitution or human trafficking because these should be criminalized where they are not already. unfortunately, the definition of who is a refugee helper and who is a human trafficker is a political decision. so i against any reduction in personal liberties as long as the state is not functional, democratic or a means of redistibution.

      • @panic
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        42 years ago

        Why do anything if you don’t believe a better future is possible? I can’t believe a “communist” would speak this way. Do you think organizing is just a meme?

        Be honest with me. Have you ever seriously engaged with Marxist feminist theory?

        • Breadbeard
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          2 years ago

          changing the course of history begins with understanding its trajectory and who threw the thing to want ends.

          I only know marxist theory. and i know feminist discourses and the feminist discourses i respect are the ones which derive from anticolonialism, black & indigenous women, the subalternous classes, not western white academia who basically represent todays suffragettes (which i consider white rightwing middle/upper class outrage based policy of todays Corp-Dems, historically used to RE-ENSLAVE the freed black slaves into CRIMINAL CLASSES by means of PROHIBITION, which the suffragette led government achieved by deludeing women into having electoral power over an oligarchical, patriarchical economy which they had long removed from any government influence…). Same goes for the whole “democracy” bullshit. where are we democratic? show me at your workplace…

          Organizing is a thing, but i m not going for anyones witchhunt against a concept they cannot get rid of. it’s like the war on drugs and the war on terror. if you really wanna wage them, you need to fight for poverty alleviation FIRST & FOREMOST. as such i do not respect such fringing out of marxist discourses into gender/race boxes and putting gender-sentiments of a non-economic nature into the forefront. formulate your economic problem (where there is exploitation, we shall fight it, independent of pseudomoralistic religious sentiments)

        • Breadbeard
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          -12 years ago

          to put it bluntly: women are a class, as such i don’t have to know more than how class oppression and alleviation works. and it doesn’t work by reducing options but not giving alternatives. and since there are no alternatives being given to those in the field, the only thing you can do is to siphon off money from the top (taxing). and don’t you think that the cost isn’t handed down until the state actually gets involved in regulating this industry

          which exists even in the most conservative, most shut down backwards theocracy, as much as they are trying to get rid of it…