I have this friend that moved from Brazil to the US. She never cared about politics and now she has joined the fucking US army. I mean she really disliked anything remotely political and now this happens, wtf? I cant wrap my mind around it. How did this happen? Like, how does the US make people wanna join their stupid ass murder machine?

  • @redshiftedbrazilianOP
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    52 years ago

    Hmm I’d say maybe she feels the need to feel confident but idk none of this sounds like her, except that she is very susceptible to cultural mythos. She does seem proud to be a soldier tho.

    And just as a side note, you’re telling me that there is a part of the population with military training, AND access to all kinds of weapon, being treated like shit in real life while the cultural industry tries to hide this fact by gloryfing them?

    Not only this but many join because it gives them some kind of prestige or because they seek adventures that wont last forever?

    This is kinda scary and promising at the same time. If the US continues to go down the path it is following ( and it looks like it will) things will get much worse for everyone, and there is no glorification in the world that can change that. They will see right through it, so I think two things can happen:

    1 - Either these people break free from these illusions and they are radicalized by the communists, realizing the lies and suffering the rulling class sold them

    or

    2 - They will keep holding on to the shattered illusions that they are heroes and better than others, so the only logical conclusion in their worldview is returning to a time when america was good, which is never, so we have a dangerous group in the society adopting reactionary views that inevitably will evolve into fascist views

    In light of recent events and the fact everytime I learn something new about the US it appears close to collapsing into a police state, I’d argue shit is not looking good and we are heading towards the worst.

    • KiG V2
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      42 years ago

      Yes, that is exactly what I’m telling you.

      The good news is, from what I can see, when it comes to actually enlisted soldiers and vets I’d say it’s split about 50/50 between Type 1 and Type 2. The Type 2 are the ones who ham it up for the media glorification circus and get the most attention but the Type 1 who aren’t so far gone and potentially able to be radicalized leftward definitely exist in large numbers, just much more quietly.

      It’s definitely still leaning towards “bad” though because while the half that are Type 2 are absolutely already fascists by every metric, the half that are Type 1 are mostly just liberal-minded at best. Not fascists, no, but also not easy to make into communists. Type 1 will be much harder to radicalize and spur into action than Type 2, although all of this will change as time wears on and new circumstances arise.

      And yes, honestly at this point I have a hard time imagining ANY future, good or bad or neutral, that doesn’t involve the US collapsing. Things will get ugly here, I just hope it is temporary and not permanent and inescapable.

      • @redshiftedbrazilianOP
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        22 years ago

        Well I though most of them would be Type 2, good to know it is more or less split. Honestly, the fall of the USSR started a hard period for us communists but since the 2008 crisis I feel like we are growing again. Now is the time to rebuild our revolutionary movements and radicalize the people, so its okay they are libs for now and somehow oppose type 1, as things get worse and they keep this opposition, I think many of them will radicalize, you just gotta be there to help them solidify these views when it happens