Got in a somewhat argument with a friend about this. I was under the impression that it was essentially far right with a different name for the sake of being different. His take was “It’s like just the good parts of socialism”

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    Of course it is important, but right now Kirchnerism is turning more and more into your typical democrat party in the US where they become virtually useless and the difference between them and the republicans is almost non existent, they have better international politics but when it comes to improving things here they do virtually nothing. If you compare it to 10 years ago they were creating plans for house building, giving more social plans, giving computers away to students and so on, now the the house building is gone, social plans are lame, they don’t give computers and they still support the bourgeoisie.

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      I dont deny this, but in this day and age, having a government that doesnt bow to US foreign policy is honestly exceptional. Most governments in the world are following the current “Russia and China bad” crap like NPCs. So the kirchners are indeed great imo.

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        Yeah, I agree, that’s why I would always support Lula over Bolsonaro or almost any other Brazilian politician, but I think we need to start creating alternatives, because these parties are becoming more and more right wingers and there isn’t some real alternative. Good thing is that with US empire in decline we may get place for some new stuff.

        Hope I didn’t sound aggressive during debate, thanks comrade you made me rethink some stuff.

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          I agree. Again we must follow Lenins strategy, which as far as im aware the Communist Party of Argentina follows. You must have an independent workers party, the Communist Party, but you make electoral coalition with bourgeois leftists like the kirchners, both for antiimperialist purposes and to show the people the uselessness of electoralism. The most important fight is in the streets, not in the ballot boxes. Besides, now the priority is bringing down US imperialism. Once that is done a new struggle will begin between workers and bourgeois parties all over the world, including in Argentina. Same as the struggle between aristocracy and bourgeoisie. The marxists supported the bourgeoisie, and once feudalism was over the fight between bourgeoisie and workers began.

          Its ok comrade, debating is vital to marxism. Saludos camarada argentino! (Soy español) O7

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            Sí, el PCA es bastante piola, lastima que hay tanto fraccionamiento entre los 15 partidos comunistas (y encima el troskismo es bastante relevante acá) que no tienen tanto apoyo entonces la izquierda marxista esta dividida en trescientas agrupaciones al pedo. Pero bueno, se hace lo que se puede.

            ¡Saludos viejita!

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              Que significa “el PCA es bastante piola”? Que aqui no usamos esta expresión xd

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                  Ahh vale vale. Pues esta bien oye. Tener un partido comunista importante (el PCA) y que este en la lista electoral que gobierna el pais (los kirchneristas), es un buen logro. Mejor que aqui en España, que el PCE original se volvió revisionista eurocomunista con el fin de la dictadura franquista en 1975 y rechazó abiertamente la revolución a favor del reformismo (aunque siguen diciendo q son marxistas leninistas por algun motivo). El PCE es parte de Unidas Podemos, la lista electoral que gobierna España junto a los socialdemocratas (PSOE). Son liberales totales, apoyan a Zelenski y le lamen el culo a la OTAN constantemente. Hubo partidos que se separaron del PCE y preservaron el marxismo leninismo como el PCPE y PCTE, pero son muy pequeños.