Be very of these false narratives which seek to bend the framework of reality towards a position in accord with the US Empire.
This is not “a conflict between two bourgeois countries”. This is an abstract, undialectical analysis.
It is adapting the framework of Western Imperialists.
This is a complex conflict decades in the making, at it’s core, it is a war between Russia and the Blood Empire.
The Ukrainian people are being used as a weapon by their bloodthirsty American masters.
I hope people here see how deceptive and devious this “both sides bad capitalists” narrative is.
It is poisonous to us communist communities, and it shows that western propaganda is very much able to spread on GenZedong.
Do not allow them to infiltrate our minds.
Godspeed comrades. o7
You are misunderstanding.
When I call it the devil, I am not saying America is a fictional character with red skin and horns.
I’m saying America IS the Devil. That the American roads, corporate building, the bridges, the cable lines, electric lines, all of the physical structures of America are the Devil, and that is what the material Devil is.
I am not using the abstract construct of the Devil when I call America the Devil.
The American you see when you look at satellite images is the Devil. That is what the Devil looks like, it is America.
And you cannot deny the objective fact that this American Empire left undefeated is going to lead to the destruction of humanity and all life on earth.
I am NOT engaging in the abstract use of the word, instead I am using the word’s essence to encapsulate what America physically is.
First off, no I’m not making them out to be a superhero, it’s just that I recognize they are opposed to the American Empire and aligned with china, thus making them a progressive force.
You are acting like their opposition to America is insignificant, and rather focusing on the abstract idea of socialism, and judging Russia under this abstract pretense.
I am simply recognizing significant, objective realities, which are opposed got be American Empire and necessary for its destruction.
Maybe we can pull back the hostility and reach an understanding.
I’m not saying they want socialism. I’m saying they want a multipolar world, which objectively benefits socialism.
This is the key.
It’d be better if you never started the hostility in the first place but I’m fine with ending it if you like.
Honestly you are just sounding less material than before. So you are saying that a devil is America? As in the dude writing the Bible was just like “ah yes this configuration of roads, bridges, class dynamics and prison population rules over hell”? I’d get if you just admitted it was a metaphor. Materialists are in fact allowed to use metaphors, just not metaphysics which you are almost proposing at this point by imbuing the US with what amounts a an independent conscious. Sounds almost like what those unironic believers of living capital think when they say that capital literally has a mind of its own when in reality its just abstract value generated by workers. Its animism almost.
I already said Russia is a progressive force, you are the one who claimed that it stands against capitalism. The Russian national bourgeois definitely are striving towards multipolarity and that is objectively good. This is very different from them being against capitalism however. You are the one who claimed that the only reason Russia isn’t practicing socialism is because they are trying to mimic China. You are clearly backpeddling from that point after you made a whole show about how I’m acting like a white western idealist.
I’m going to move on from the Devil discussion because I am not using it as a religious term, only one of defining the Empire as the ultimate enemy of humanity. It is not significant.
Here is the issue we are having. I might not have been clear. I am not saying Russia stands against the concept or idea of capitalism. I am saying that it objectively is weakening the economic core of capitalism and bolstering a multipolar world, benefiting real, existing socialism and progress of humanity.
I never said this, and I reject that I am backpedaling. This claim was never, ever made. I only stayed that it stood against the white hegemonic core of Capitalism. I did not make clear in that comment that it does not meant they are ideologically progressing themselves towards a Russian socialism.
Maybe this is more clear now?
"Absolutely hilarious. This is the same, western white perspective which white anarchists use to chastise China as a capitalist Dictatorship.
Again, you are engaging in even more dense idealism.
You claim if they wanted socialism they would liquidate themselves?
Comrade, they are bound by a material reality in which they are under the thumb of the American Empire. You are asking for the Russian state to commit suicide. If they were to abolish and overthrow their entire system they would be obliterated by the American Empire.
It is truly unbelievable that a self proclaimed Marxist could state that Russia must prove ideological accord by sabatoging and engaging in a destabilizing restructuring while they are UNDER FUCKING ATTACK BY THE GODDAMN FOURTH REICH, NATO.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT, COMRADE."
Or ofcourse.
“…literally in opposition to the white hegemonic core of capitalism.”
Did you not say these statements? These are copy pastes of your own words.
Let’s break them down. In the first one you compare Russia to China in that it must use capitalist development because of the western world. This entire first quote is only valid if you work from the assumption Russia is a DOTP (which it isn’t). Russia is not a DOTP, this can be most easily observed by looking how Russia and China have radically addressed poverty (namely that China is focusing on making the common person’s life better via strong workplace protections and developing undeveloped communities while Russia doesn’t).
The 2nd quote is you saying that Russia is “…literally in opposition” to “capitalism” or at least its “white hegemonic core.”. When again, Russia is not against capitalism, hell its not even against racism. Russia has nazi’s too (just like every other bourgeois nation).
Like I said, you are backpeddling.