Can you explain to me how us Commies should view and deal with Islam? As far as I personally see, from Reading Muslims’ writings and watching huge amounts of Islamic lectures online (Yasir Qadi, Mufti Menk, Numan Ali Khan, Mohammaed Hoblos…) the major Muslim opinion is very unfriendly towards LGBT, Jews, and atheism. And of course keeping women down by not allowing them opportunities. How can we reconcile this? I feel so bad because when I see Islam, all I see is an unprogressive ideology.
Huge parts of the “middle east” were invaded, occupied and colonized by the british - until not long ago. You can blame their social problems on islam only, just as much as you can blame south america’s ones in christianity only. You’ll be wrong on both.
when I see islam, all I see is an unprogressive ideology. you’re completely misunderstanding it here. Islam isn’t a party, isn’t an ideology, it’s a religion, a huge one.
Just as cristhianity persisted in the USSR, Cuba, and religions persist in China, they’ll be present, and relevant, in whatever country you want to establish socialism in. A country being majority-(religion) doesn’t make socialism unachievable.
Oh, and yeah uh… when it comes to jewish people, the opinion of the average worker in the middle east might be influenced by murder-machine Israel being right beside them. It shouldn’t, government ≠ individuals, but let’s be realistic, it does.
Material conditions matter more than religion. Don’t blame religion for a lack of progress in a society. Religion is a tool for the opressor to maintain power.
I would like to add that Islamic societies, before while European societies were struggling amidst the bubonic plague and other factors, were making much progress in the fields of science, medicine, and technologies. For example, welfare and pensions are part of Islamic law from its early days. During the Rashidun Caliphate, social security (which the West wouldn’t see until the 19th century), retirement pensions, public trusteeship and public ownership were introduced. The caliphate also included a poverty threshold, ensuring a minimum standard of living and guaranteeing the poor cash stipends. These are but a few of the examples of how ahead of its time Islamic Empires and sharia was.
The unprogressive strain of Islam prevalent in the Middle East today is largely due to the effects of colonialism and imperialism, who introduced with class society, the subjugation of women and LGBTQ. Capitalism always needs a sector of society to oppress, and women serve that purpose. In fact, there are a lot of values in Islam that align with Marxist values. For example, centering the collective as opposed to centering the individual, prohibition of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of the privileged classes, organization of the economic structure of the state to ensure social welfare, equality of opportunity for all human beings, and prevention of enduring class structure through revolution.
all religions are unprogressive, but powerful. we must deal with them carefully. remember, atheism is the goal, any religion will still have reactionary nature and be used by the last libs and fascists as an area to project power.
Can you explain to me how us Commies should view and deal with Islam? As far as I personally see, from Reading Muslims’ writings and watching huge amounts of Islamic lectures online (Yasir Qadi, Mufti Menk, Numan Ali Khan, Mohammaed Hoblos…) the major Muslim opinion is very unfriendly towards LGBT, Jews, and atheism. And of course keeping women down by not allowing them opportunities. How can we reconcile this? I feel so bad because when I see Islam, all I see is an unprogressive ideology.
Huge parts of the “middle east” were invaded, occupied and colonized by the british - until not long ago. You can blame their social problems on islam only, just as much as you can blame south america’s ones in christianity only. You’ll be wrong on both.
when I see islam, all I see is an unprogressive ideology. you’re completely misunderstanding it here. Islam isn’t a party, isn’t an ideology, it’s a religion, a huge one. Just as cristhianity persisted in the USSR, Cuba, and religions persist in China, they’ll be present, and relevant, in whatever country you want to establish socialism in. A country being majority-(religion) doesn’t make socialism unachievable.
Oh, and yeah uh… when it comes to jewish people, the opinion of the average worker in the middle east might be influenced by murder-machine Israel being right beside them. It shouldn’t, government ≠ individuals, but let’s be realistic, it does.
Material conditions matter more than religion. Don’t blame religion for a lack of progress in a society. Religion is a tool for the opressor to maintain power.
I would like to add that Islamic societies, before while European societies were struggling amidst the bubonic plague and other factors, were making much progress in the fields of science, medicine, and technologies. For example, welfare and pensions are part of Islamic law from its early days. During the Rashidun Caliphate, social security (which the West wouldn’t see until the 19th century), retirement pensions, public trusteeship and public ownership were introduced. The caliphate also included a poverty threshold, ensuring a minimum standard of living and guaranteeing the poor cash stipends. These are but a few of the examples of how ahead of its time Islamic Empires and sharia was.
The unprogressive strain of Islam prevalent in the Middle East today is largely due to the effects of colonialism and imperialism, who introduced with class society, the subjugation of women and LGBTQ. Capitalism always needs a sector of society to oppress, and women serve that purpose. In fact, there are a lot of values in Islam that align with Marxist values. For example, centering the collective as opposed to centering the individual, prohibition of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of the privileged classes, organization of the economic structure of the state to ensure social welfare, equality of opportunity for all human beings, and prevention of enduring class structure through revolution.
all religions are unprogressive, but powerful. we must deal with them carefully. remember, atheism is the goal, any religion will still have reactionary nature and be used by the last libs and fascists as an area to project power.
That is so funny: “Hello my fellow children. I am not a police officer. Where do we buy the marijuana?”