Let’s just say that looking at MilitaryMaps right now… The plan of our military command is a fucking mistery of a grand scale.
While the southern front made steady progress and managed to achieve good breakthrough, the front in the North is weird. There’s literally two large tentacles extending towards Kiev, but never reaching it and stuck there since the first couple of days of invasion. That battlegroup was literally sitting there for weeks just getting shot by Ukr artillery and counterattacked bynwhatever scarce military force Ukraine had there in the moment.
The Eastern front is kinda stale also. The primary Ukr battlegroup is still open as heck and mobile attempts to encircle and blockade it by moving in from the North got cut off by the siege of Kharkiva and the southern front is dealing with Marioupol.
It’s heck of a complicated situation. On one hand, Russia is certainly winning if we don’t take factors other than military.
The population here certainly doesn’t eat any more of that half-assed “we win, 100%” narrative from the media. The loss of life and the devastation of Marioupol certainly dealt a certain blow to how the war is viewed here. The economical situation is detoriorating rapidly, despite the rouble supposedly holding on. Our own losses and Ukrainian counter strikes on our territory instilled enough fear for people in the near-Ukraine territory to be afraid of bombs falling on their heads. Plus many of our soldiers already died there. Even the official number of 1500+ is already way too beyond the limit we could swallow silently. The real losses are most likely much, MUCH higher than that.
So while the military victory will be vlaimed, it is pyrrhic at best. If not a complete loss.
Dont listern to Ukrainian propaganda about “huge Russian losses” and other nonsense they come up with. And if what you are saying is true, then why is Putn’s approval rating record high at 80 percent? Thats more than any western leader.
…ugh, again, I’m not listening to Ukr bullshit. I know it’s bullshit. I’m saying that even about 2000+ dead soldiers is way too much with how the war is treated, while numbers are most likely around 4-5 thousand real losses with how the things go. The majority of people in the province where I am living treat this all since day one as a senseless bloodshed. Especially since it threw many people into poverty and many people lost their job due to sanctions.
As for the “approval ratings” - yeh, I wouldn’t believe it either. I have not a single idea about where their data comes from and who the respondents for that kind of questioning were. But almost everyone I know, and I mean ALMOST EVERYONE FUCKING HATES this bullshit what’s going on and Pu who’s responsible for all this. For reasons I already stated above.
I’m not saying “ebil puting blegh-blegh sav bleghkraine”. I’m just stating how things are. Don’t get carried away. Posts around here were making things around here in Russia seem way too pinky-happy. The reality is boringly opposite - the sanctions are steadily taking their toll, but obviosuly the working class and small bourgeoisie are getting all the “fun” from it. If all this ended quickly and without unnecessary bloodshed by taking Kiev and grabbing Zelenski ass - Pu and his fellows would’ve got away easily with their shenanigans. But the longer it all takes - the worse the situation gets internally.
Well, the view on all this depends on our prediction, what would have happened if we did not start the war.
Our army provided evidence that Ukraine planned a massive attack on LNR and DNR in march of this year. The questions are:
1.1) Is this true?
1.2) If yes, could we let Ukraine conquer them?
1.3) If no and we used our army, how will it go for us compared to current situation? More or less death/destruction?
Our leadership declared that letting Ukraine be will create existential treat for us. The questions here are similar, is it true, what specifically could happen to us etc.
I think, at least 1.1 is neccessary for formulating opinion about situation.
Let’s just say that looking at MilitaryMaps right now… The plan of our military command is a fucking mistery of a grand scale.
While the southern front made steady progress and managed to achieve good breakthrough, the front in the North is weird. There’s literally two large tentacles extending towards Kiev, but never reaching it and stuck there since the first couple of days of invasion. That battlegroup was literally sitting there for weeks just getting shot by Ukr artillery and counterattacked bynwhatever scarce military force Ukraine had there in the moment.
The Eastern front is kinda stale also. The primary Ukr battlegroup is still open as heck and mobile attempts to encircle and blockade it by moving in from the North got cut off by the siege of Kharkiva and the southern front is dealing with Marioupol.
It’s heck of a complicated situation. On one hand, Russia is certainly winning if we don’t take factors other than military.
The population here certainly doesn’t eat any more of that half-assed “we win, 100%” narrative from the media. The loss of life and the devastation of Marioupol certainly dealt a certain blow to how the war is viewed here. The economical situation is detoriorating rapidly, despite the rouble supposedly holding on. Our own losses and Ukrainian counter strikes on our territory instilled enough fear for people in the near-Ukraine territory to be afraid of bombs falling on their heads. Plus many of our soldiers already died there. Even the official number of 1500+ is already way too beyond the limit we could swallow silently. The real losses are most likely much, MUCH higher than that.
So while the military victory will be vlaimed, it is pyrrhic at best. If not a complete loss.
Dont listern to Ukrainian propaganda about “huge Russian losses” and other nonsense they come up with. And if what you are saying is true, then why is Putn’s approval rating record high at 80 percent? Thats more than any western leader.
…ugh, again, I’m not listening to Ukr bullshit. I know it’s bullshit. I’m saying that even about 2000+ dead soldiers is way too much with how the war is treated, while numbers are most likely around 4-5 thousand real losses with how the things go. The majority of people in the province where I am living treat this all since day one as a senseless bloodshed. Especially since it threw many people into poverty and many people lost their job due to sanctions.
As for the “approval ratings” - yeh, I wouldn’t believe it either. I have not a single idea about where their data comes from and who the respondents for that kind of questioning were. But almost everyone I know, and I mean ALMOST EVERYONE FUCKING HATES this bullshit what’s going on and Pu who’s responsible for all this. For reasons I already stated above.
I’m not saying “ebil puting blegh-blegh sav bleghkraine”. I’m just stating how things are. Don’t get carried away. Posts around here were making things around here in Russia seem way too pinky-happy. The reality is boringly opposite - the sanctions are steadily taking their toll, but obviosuly the working class and small bourgeoisie are getting all the “fun” from it. If all this ended quickly and without unnecessary bloodshed by taking Kiev and grabbing Zelenski ass - Pu and his fellows would’ve got away easily with their shenanigans. But the longer it all takes - the worse the situation gets internally.
Well, the view on all this depends on our prediction, what would have happened if we did not start the war.
I think, at least 1.1 is neccessary for formulating opinion about situation.