• Ephera
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    -42 years ago

    The NATO is a defense agreement. Of course, Russia won’t be a fan of everyone else forming an alliance, but they wouldn’t need to care either, if they don’t plan to invade anyone.
    And their immediate neighbors certainly wouldn’t either be joining a defense agreement with foreign forces rather than with Russia, if they felt like they could trust Russia, let alone need defense against Russia.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      92 years ago

      Ah yes it’s just an innocent defensive alliance that has been relentlessly expanding and invading countries for the past 30 years.

    • Water Bowl Slime
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      I responded to this in another comment but simply put: NATO isn’t a defensive alliance and it never was. That’s a paper-thin lie that isn’t supported by their history whatsoever. If NATO were to expand to Ukraine, they would threaten Russia militarily, if not outright coup them.

    • Catradora-Stalinism☭
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      Ukraine is a nazi-influenced country, of course it would be scared of russia. Russia, with its many faults, still fucking hates nazis. NATO is also not a defense alliance, it is an imperialist alliance made to kill communism, and expand the power of its leader, the United States.

      • @crulife@lemmy.ml
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        Russia, with its many faults, still fucking hates nazis.

        If that’s true, why are they in so many ways nazis themselves? Some Sun Tzu thing perhaps? “To know your enemy, you must become your enemy.”

        • Catradora-Stalinism☭
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          52 years ago

          name one nazi battalion in russia with police authority. One. Name a single openly nazi official in the entirety of the russian parliament. Can you even properly spout your own propaganda?

          • @crulife@lemmy.ml
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            name one nazi battalion in russia with police authority.

            Why did you have to specify “with police authority”? Did you invent that specifically so that I couldn’t say “Wagner Group”?

              • @crulife@lemmy.ml
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                -42 years ago

                Wow, that’s weird. Was that politically motivated or what? I see the resolution was adapted on 2014-12-18, so some time after Russia illegally annexed Crimea from Ukraine.

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                    There’s gotta be a reason why countries like Germany or Sweden, or practically all of the western world abstain from voting on this.

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                  It’s a couple of things. It was politically motivated in the case of Ukraine’s vote (it was submitted by Russia) and the US has an intense dedication to freedom of speech that is almost unparalleled.

              • @jurimasa@lemmy.ml
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                -12 years ago

                If you read that article, nowhere it says it’s fictional. It’s the informal name given to a loose group of organizations. You really want to push some narrative here.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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                  32 years ago

                  If you read the article then it’s pretty clear that there is no such group, and nowhere does the article claim that there are any nazi groups in Russian military. All the article says that Russia has mercenary groups and black ops. Pretty much all the allegations are pure speculation without any hard evidence. Sounds like you’re the one who’s determined to push a narrative here.

            • Catradora-Stalinism☭
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              No, because the Nazi Battalions in ukraine have police authority. Thats why its been hell for ethnic russians. the Wagner group is despicable, but are not a concrete organization. It is more of a broad name about different mercs and some groups that could be hired.