I’ve been having this argument for over a decade now, so pardon my French, but there are some strong feelings there. And speaking of French “its only anime if it’s japanese” sounds a lot like “its only champagne if it’s from the champagne region of france”, a distinction without a difference.
IMO describing it as “American anime” describes its visual style/energy/design much better than “(American) Adult Cartoon”
That is not how it works. It would be considered “anime-influenced”, but not an actual anime, unless it was either made in Japan or we are just taking the Japanese definition of anime which encompasses all animation.
“Anime (Japanese: アニメ, IPA: [aɲime] (listen)) is hand-drawn and computer-generated animation originating from Japan. Outside Japan and in English, anime refers specifically to animation produced in Japan.[1] However, in Japan and in Japanese, anime (a term derived from a shortening of the English word animation) describes all animated works, regardless of style or origin. Animation produced outside Japan with similar style to Japanese animation is commonly referred to as anime-influenced animation.”
I think that people are just confused from the language. The word アニメ(anime), in the context of the Japanese language, generally refers to any animation - not just Japanese animation; however, the English transliteration of アニメ, anime, refers specifically to Japanese animation
Yes it does work like this, if you create something in clear style, let’s say an impressionist painting it’s still an impressionist painting even if you’re not French. Manga/anime spread through the world and stopped being a Japanese-only style.
I think that people are just confused from the language. The word アニメ(anime), in the context of the Japanese language, generally refers to any animation - not just Japanese animation; however, the English transliteration of アニメ, anime, refers specifically to Japanese animation.
Perhaps but we are not speaking in Japanese here, in english anime is always referred to as specific style of animation. So an American made anime is still anime and Japanese made cartoon in western style would not be anime even though in Japanese it would be called so. Same with manga and comics. Generally i think it’s a terminology shift in progress because i doubt that in the 80’s anyone in Japan could predict the massive spread of it worldwide. Hell, China right now is producing more manga and probably more anime than Japan (note they name it manhua and donghua but it’s still being called manga and anime usually in english).
In English, it is referred to as Japanese animation, not just a specific style. Heck, the style has changed since the early inception, and each anime has its own unique style. The one umbrella that unifies them all is that they are made by Japanese animation studios.
You are extrapolating a definition based on different things. I shared the official definition with you. Whatever else you choose to assign the label “anime” to, is just your own subjective views.
Panty & Stocking + Garterbelt
Afro Samurai
The Boondocks (it counts, fuck you)
How does The Boondocks count? And why such foul language comrade?! No need to be so defensive…
I’ve been having this argument for over a decade now, so pardon my French, but there are some strong feelings there. And speaking of French “its only anime if it’s japanese” sounds a lot like “its only champagne if it’s from the champagne region of france”, a distinction without a difference.
IMO describing it as “American anime” describes its visual style/energy/design much better than “(American) Adult Cartoon”
make it simpler and call it americanime lmfao
It’s in the anime style so it’s an anime, is that a trick question?
That is not how it works. It would be considered “anime-influenced”, but not an actual anime, unless it was either made in Japan or we are just taking the Japanese definition of anime which encompasses all animation.
“Anime (Japanese: アニメ, IPA: [aɲime] (listen)) is hand-drawn and computer-generated animation originating from Japan. Outside Japan and in English, anime refers specifically to animation produced in Japan.[1] However, in Japan and in Japanese, anime (a term derived from a shortening of the English word animation) describes all animated works, regardless of style or origin. Animation produced outside Japan with similar style to Japanese animation is commonly referred to as anime-influenced animation.”
https://wikiless.tiekoetter.com/wiki/Anime
I think that people are just confused from the language. The word アニメ(anime), in the context of the Japanese language, generally refers to any animation - not just Japanese animation; however, the English transliteration of アニメ, anime, refers specifically to Japanese animation
Yes it does work like this, if you create something in clear style, let’s say an impressionist painting it’s still an impressionist painting even if you’re not French. Manga/anime spread through the world and stopped being a Japanese-only style.
I think that people are just confused from the language. The word アニメ(anime), in the context of the Japanese language, generally refers to any animation - not just Japanese animation; however, the English transliteration of アニメ, anime, refers specifically to Japanese animation.
Perhaps but we are not speaking in Japanese here, in english anime is always referred to as specific style of animation. So an American made anime is still anime and Japanese made cartoon in western style would not be anime even though in Japanese it would be called so. Same with manga and comics. Generally i think it’s a terminology shift in progress because i doubt that in the 80’s anyone in Japan could predict the massive spread of it worldwide. Hell, China right now is producing more manga and probably more anime than Japan (note they name it manhua and donghua but it’s still being called manga and anime usually in english).
Yes, that’s what I’m saying. I agree with you. I just realized that I meant to post my comment to the other commenter.
In English, it is referred to as Japanese animation, not just a specific style. Heck, the style has changed since the early inception, and each anime has its own unique style. The one umbrella that unifies them all is that they are made by Japanese animation studios.
That is what I shared. You are agreeing with me
You are extrapolating a definition based on different things. I shared the official definition with you. Whatever else you choose to assign the label “anime” to, is just your own subjective views.