Yep, that’s what I love about that album!

For post-rock, I guess I’d describe it as “much longer, textured, atmospheric, experimental rock.” Deathconsciousness is more shoegaze (think “wall of sound” like the second half of Hunter) than post-rock, whereas F#A#∞ is more standard post-rock. The shortest song on the album is 16 minutes, and the longest is 29. It really draws you in, makes you feel like you’re somewhere else. Repitition, long textured winding paths, almost droning.

What I personally love is that it’s extremely relaxing when the mood is right for it. I also tend to like ambient, my favorite ambient album being Brian Eno’s Music for Airports. They have different moods, but both are capable of taking my mind off things for their duration, or letting me focus on work I need to get done!

Looks absolutely terrible, like YouTube thumbnails as graphics.

I love them too! The second to last shows incredible heroism from women, the last shows how humanity is a part of nature and must be an active participant in nature, protecting it while using it to provide for us all, rather than seeing us as outside of nature.

Likewise comrade 🫡

I like these!

The problem originates with a lack of theory, and the fact that you can’t just tell them to “read theory,” because they won’t. They don’t understand what class is or what socialism looks like in concrete reality, they coast by on vibes and pop-culture ideas of socialism. The difficulty rests in being able to explain that socialism is a mode of production by which public ownership is the principal aspect, and the working classes control the state, and doing so in a concise yet detailed enough manner that actually gets the ideas across solidly. I used to quote theory to try, but that never worked unless they had already read some theory, which is very few anti-communists.

Then there are the die-hard social fascists like PJ that call any socialist state “fascist,” and just mock you for providing reciepts.

Thanks! I’d certainly hesitate to call it praxis, but I do know that by doing what I’ve been doing, some more people have gone over to the left, and that makes me happy and the effort worth it!

Oh shoot, act 3 is out? Missed that! Haven’t listened to the Protomen for years, but Calling Out is fantastic, thanks! Probably going to go through the whole discography again, haha.

That’s fair! I go through periods where it’s very relaxing and even uplifting for me, but I certainly couldn’t listen to it daily.

To state that without China, the different factions of Palestinian resistance couldn’t have reconciled is some conspiratorial bullshit

Never said this. Further, the idea that anyone could have played a vital mediation role, and yet in reality it was the CPC that did so, is important. Material reality matters more than fantasy. The rest of your comment is immense goalpost shifting and cope.

The PRC has its flaws. Perhaps one day you could be mature enough to admit that.

I do admit the PRC has flaws, I just don’t magnify their flaws and minimize their successes.

I won’t pretend to know, but they definitely exist IRL too.

Honestly no clue, haha. Might be his quiet and firm personality being seen as boring at first glance?

Their tiny size is why they are so desperate.

Cool idea, comrade! Lately I’ve been listening to F# A# ∞ , something about post-rock just helps me zone out. Also loving Deathconsciousness (CW: gore) for much the same reason, it’s oddly relaxing. I especially love the shift midway through the track hunter, which unfolds into a wall of sound with a calm voice in the background, anchoring the listener.

Y! Sounds fun!

They didn’t unite the resistance groups. They united themselves.

The CPC mediated the discussions and played an active role. Further, both China’s and the DPRK’s long-standing support of the PLO and established ties to resistance groups is something well-documented.

Rare earth elements have a wide range of uses. They are used in electronics, primarily.

Incredible cope on your part to try to make it seem like the CPC have no idea that restricting rare Earths restricts western arms. This was easily pointed out by everyone, there’s no chance this wasn’t actively considered.

I thought I wouldn’t have to explain this to a self proclaimed communist, but here we are. We are talking about “aid” that China provided through an organization in Jordan. Essentially, this is an organization that pledge to respect Israel’s sovereignty, that is, they do not defy blockades.

China ensured that the food aid made it to Gaza. I thought you cared about material reality, and not just words? The aid made it to Gaza. You’re jumping through hoops to deny China’s support for Palestine, constantly moving goalposts to justify seeing an ally as an enemy. China’s deep bilateral trade with Iran is one of the most important ways Iran can afford to aid the resistance in the first place.

Absolutely not. It is important for what it is, but it is not material help. My argument was and continues to remain that China does not materially help Palestine

Uniting resistance groups isn’t “material help?” Humanitarian aid and diplomatic moves towards statehood isn’t “material help?” Support for the PLO isn’t material help?

Where? There is no evidence for this ever happening. You posted an article that says that the Diaper forces (famously reliable source of information) has said that Hamas uses Chinese guns. Chinese made guns, if you didn’t know, are fairly popular among resistance fighters everywhere because they are cheap. So were Soviet made guns back in the day. African warlords have them. China is funding African warlords as well?

Hamas uses weapons produced by the DPRK as well, are you arguing that they are getting black market DPRK weaponry as well? Hamas uses what it can get its hands on, yes, including a mix of first and second hand weaponry.

Did you read the press release? They did not stop the export of rare Earth elements because of their potential use in weaponry. And they didn’t do it because of Israel. Short of directly selling arms to the Diaper Forces, China conducts most types of trade with Isntreal.

China specifically restricts trade of rare Earths useful in making weaponry. Regardless of what the outward statements may be, they know that restricting rare Earths restricts weapons manufacturers.

The largest economy in the world cannot afford to spare political support for Palestine, eh? I guess countries that do support Palestine do not exist? The assertion that China would be blocked from world trade if they were to support Palestine is mind mindbogglingly inaccurate. Look at Qatar, a small country with an American military base on their soil. They are in no way shape or form independent. Their economy is tiny and they survive entirely on imports. And they have been funding Hamas for ages. You telling me if Qatar who’ve got America’s dick so far down their throat could do this, China couldn’t? At this point, even the Russians have done far more for Palestine than China. They significantly re-armed Iran and financed them so they could keep supporting Palestine.

And China is highly likely to be providing intelligence to Iran, donated 100 million to Gaza in humanitarian aid in 2025 alone, and has been doing far more than you believe.

Zilch. They have done nothing material whatsoever. They have not sent aid, in food or clothes. They have not sent weapons. They have not sanctioned Isntreal. They have however, sent their strongest words of condemnation along with thoughts and prayers. History will look back on China as enablers of the Palestinian genocide, as it will most of the world. But hey, they sent a strongly worded letter to the Isntreally embassy in Beijing which still continues to operate housing war criminals inside.

China has sent aid, hundreds of millions. They haven’t sanctioned the entity, but they have restricted sales of weaponry and undermined the US’s ability to support Israel.

This is not the first time China has betrayed other revolutionary causes internationally. They have even done so much as voting against the DPRK to sanction them at the UN. Repeatedly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1718 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_2270

There would have been literally no consequences for China for blocking these. They have, in other instances, blocked similar resolutions, with no consequences whatsoever. Even if there were consequences, they wouldn’t be existential or even too detrimental.

China has consistently only ever veto’d at the security council if it is willing to intervene millitarily in order to protect the veto’d outcome. The PRC has veto’d sanctions on the DPRK, and has enforced that veto by increasing trade with the DPRK. The US Empire has never been stopped by a veto, such as when it was determined to stop shipping arms to Haiti, which the US subverted. China vetoing the UNSC declaration on Palestine would mean mobilizing its army to directly prevent the US’s plans for the region.

This is a pattern of behavior, and is not in the spirit of proletarian internationalism. It has been said that this is even a betrayal of proletarian internationalism. As much as 10 percent of the gross national production of the Soviet Union was diverted to the People’s Republic for almost a decade after the Chinese revolution, for free, to help the young project. This is not including countless engineers, doctors and scientists who were also sent over. Where are the Chinese scientists, doctors and advisors in Palestine?

Here they are in 2020 providing aid for COVID relief in Palestine and working with Palestinians to help set up good medical care. Here they are in 2024 providing humanitarian aid, before the 100 million number. China has been a strong friend of Palestine for decades.

Pretending that your favorite socialist project in the world aligns with your imaginary, perfect version that exists in your mind does nobody any favors. China has achieved a great deal and will achieve a great deal. Proletarian internationalism and the goodwill of communists elsewhere in the third world are not in that list.

I don’t pretend the PRC is a fantasy, perfect version. I also don’t lie about easily verifiable claims, like saying China hasn’t sent aid.

The point is not that China would face no consequences at all if they politically supported Palestine (They do not, by the way. As far as I know, they officially endorse the two state solution :vomit:). The point is that they wouldn’t do even so much as stopping trade with Israel for the very little consequences they would face. They wouldn’t even absorb such a minimal economic impact.

China supports the two-state solution not as a permanent solution, but the first step to the freedom of Palestine by getting Palestine legal recognition as a state.

They are capable of extending themselves and flexing their military when they feel like it. They sent their fleet to threaten Australia as a power play. They conduct military exercises in the South China sea. And they militarily threaten Taiwan province and the American military establishment there. Only when it suits them. I haven’t seen a Chinese fleet near Israel.

China is not threatening other countries, and China isn’t risking war with the west.

Overall, the idea that China is doing “nothing” for Palestine is just ultraleftism. They provide diplomatic support for statehood, send humanitarian aid, medical assistance, support Iran, are undermining imperialism and thus eroding Israel’s support base, and more. You’re acting like they are an active enemy of Palestine, rather than a steady ally that has varied in its levels of support.

Prominent social fascist, terminally online and posts a ton.

Yep! Debate-as-bloodsport style liberals often make the most basic errors in media literacy, which comes with a whole host of issues. Media literacy itself is one of the most important tools of the modern era due to the sheer volume of information available.

Yep, good point! Also, the creator of PieFed instance-banned me from PieFed.social for debunking PJ a bit too hard, haha. It splits the FOSS reddit-style base into communist-friendly and anti-communist.