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We just had an intense and insightful discussion around landlordism under Capitalism, during a potential transition away from Capitalism, and in an “ideal communist world.” For example, she has previously sought becoming a landlord to escape the struggle of being working class. The discussions she has seen about landlordism tend to lack nuance, such as how the system propagandizes towards ownership as as desirable lifestyle, the material conditions that could lead someone to buy into that “hopeful message”, and how most people do not have the tools for recognizing the inherent economic exploitation involved with being a landlord. Instead, the conversation is aggressively vilifying landlords without attempting to meet people where they are and educating them from there. The conversation is over before it starts and thus there can be no education or radicalization from it. She also doesn’t like the arguments that happen where a landlord’s personal character, and thus her potential character, is assaulted for having sought this method of existing within a Capitalist system.)

Fuckin’ done with that idiot. Even my boomer liberal dad who hasn’t rented in decades dislikes landlords and knows they need to be done away with. This commenter’s excessively liberal wannabe-landlord GF is not someone who has any useful insight.

@pimento
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There is a good point though. It seems very common in the English speaking left to attack people for their different views. That is not gonna convince anyone, most likely they will get hurt and ignore what you said. What we should do instead is educate people, cause we all have to start somewhere.

Sure landlords are exploiters, but are you going to discard Friedrich Engels’ writings because he was bourgeoisie?

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Sure landlords are exploiters, but are you going to discard Friedrich Engels’ writings because he was bourgeoisie?

Kropotkin disregarded Engels and Marx very easily in The Conquest of Bread because of theor ridiculous support of state power.

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I have read that book, and it claims that people will just spontaneously organise when the revolution happens. But I know from my own experience that organising is hard work, and takes a lot of time. At least the level of organisation that is necessary to defeat an invasion from a capitalist army. After the Russian revolution, the country was invaded by a coalition army of 11 countries. The only way to defeat such a force was with an army of their own, which required a state to function. History has shown that Anarchism is not able to withstand this kind of aggression, precisely because rejects the state.

The important point is that the state is a tool which can be wielded by the bourgeoisie or by the working class. Or in other words, the only way to beat a bad guy with a state is a good guy with a state.

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Have marked this for later watching but I don’t think male domination is not a problem exclusive to beardtube on YouTube. Regardless it would be great if there were lots more non-cishet male beardtubers.

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