• @pimentoOP
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    13 years ago

    There is a good point though. It seems very common in the English speaking left to attack people for their different views. That is not gonna convince anyone, most likely they will get hurt and ignore what you said. What we should do instead is educate people, cause we all have to start somewhere.

    Sure landlords are exploiters, but are you going to discard Friedrich Engels’ writings because he was bourgeoisie?

    • Rev Herag
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      13 years ago

      Sure landlords are exploiters, but are you going to discard Friedrich Engels’ writings because he was bourgeoisie?

      Kropotkin disregarded Engels and Marx very easily in The Conquest of Bread because of theor ridiculous support of state power.

      • @pimentoOP
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        43 years ago

        I have read that book, and it claims that people will just spontaneously organise when the revolution happens. But I know from my own experience that organising is hard work, and takes a lot of time. At least the level of organisation that is necessary to defeat an invasion from a capitalist army. After the Russian revolution, the country was invaded by a coalition army of 11 countries. The only way to defeat such a force was with an army of their own, which required a state to function. History has shown that Anarchism is not able to withstand this kind of aggression, precisely because rejects the state.

        The important point is that the state is a tool which can be wielded by the bourgeoisie or by the working class. Or in other words, the only way to beat a bad guy with a state is a good guy with a state.