https://hexbear.net/comment/6470406

Some bozo from lemmy.today wanders into c/memes with:

They want to turn us into obedient slave citizens like in the east.

And after being told to face the wall they double down. Some of the hits:

We have a tradition of representative government and more honest leadership. Trying to get offended on behalf of people that live under despotic governments elsewhere is the reason why everybody hates the politically correct.

Western style governments elect their leaders, they have the Free Press, and they are allowed to criticize their leaders and companies. Something that does not and has not ever existed in the East to any large degree.

Well it would be governmentist not racist.

And it is true that I am biased against autocratic governments ruled by despots.

But do not let me keep you here, don’t you have somebody to accuse of cultural appropriation?

And my favorite:

The ignorant always think they know more, because they never learned enough to know how little they know.

chefs-kiss

edit: They’re still going lmfao

  • mathemachristian [he/him]@hexbear.netM
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    smuglord read a history book
    internet-delenda-est 3/4 of this site has read the jakarta method
    clueless whats that

    This is where bit accounts and real libbery get indistinguishable, amazing stuff

    • Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      They always do that too, you mention a book they should read or just basic information on the place they are talking about and they respond with “what’s that?” every time. It really is like they only learned their ideas of being “intellectual” from people like Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro, where they just think using big words and telling people to read more makes them sound knowledgeable. They really can’t imagine that someone would actually know things, it’s always just whoever is more smug in their position is correct.

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        But why admit ignorance, thats what gets me. You are arguing on the internet friend, you wanna show those unread hordes how knowledgeable you are, why not google it first??

        • Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Because if they looked it up earnestly, they would have to potentially admit to themselves that they are wrong, but if they ask their internet enemy about it, they can then dismiss what they say out of hand without consideration. It protects their ego more this way, even though it makes them look like a dumbass, they don’t actually realise that they look like a dumbass arguing like this, or else they wouldn’t do it.

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    The ignorant always think they know more, because they never learned enough to know how little they know.

    This is so close to being a gr8 b8, I won’t believe otherwise.

  • SmithrunHills [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    imagine the brainworms they have to still be using “politically correct” and “cultural appropriation” in a derogatory way. like dawg, your fellow racist chauvinists have moved on to calling leftists chinese/russian bots and tankies. get with the times

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    If I didn’t know that this was a real kind of person, i’d think that someone was trying to yank our collective chain

    Like, tailor made gibberish to just honk us off

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    a few hours after i saw this thread, i had this convo with someone on irc:

    <dude1> “Yemen’s Houthis confirm prime minister killed in Israeli strike on Sanaa”
    <dude1> i missed this. does not seem to be widely reported
    <dude2> they have a prime minister?
    <huf> they’re yemen’s government
    <huf> so… yes?
    <dude2> actually they’re a tribe, aren’t they
    <huf> ?
    <huf> no?
    <huf> they’re yemen’s government
    <huf> westoid media just refuses to acknowledge the state of things because they want their puppet govt there
    <dude2> yes, but it’s a tribe
    <dude2> it’s like saying the Arpad was the prime minister of the hungarians
    <huf> ?
    <huf> why?
    <dude2> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Houthi_family
    <dude2> I’m just saying that prime ministers are a recent invention
    <dude2> tied to european style of government
    <dude2> nevertheless, it could have been someone with the title “prime minister”

    i’m afraid there’s no hope.

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      They see Gulf comprador states and project the wildest imaginations of governance (and pretty much everything else) on the entirety of WANA and Central Asia. Many such cases.

      • huf [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        no, i think this is different. like, even comprador states have prime ministers. that’s just the head executive of the government when it’s not a presidential system. how can you question that? what else would they have? what?

        this is like thinking chinese companies dont have a CEO, because handwave

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          I get that, but from a surface level view, a Westerner seeing or hearing the words “King …” and “Prince …” when referring to a leader in the Gulf will likely lead them to assume A) they are “tribal” unlike “our civilized” ass and B) that every single West Asian/North African nation is ruled via monarchy held by a tribe. Which is fucking silly as hell.

          • huf [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            oh yes! they dont have a prime minister, they have a vizier! how could i forget about the oriental vizier

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    I read that, the instance should change name to lemmy.born.today just for this person

  • The using “emotional” as a insult was peak level unserious.

    Like in a parroting sort of way: “I’ve learnt calling people emotional is very effective and adultlike in debatebroland, so I will do that all the time when I am being an unserious fuck on the internet.”

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      The best part is that one of the “emotional” accusations was based on someone using all caps to spell CIA in their comment.