I mean… I don’t get what they’re lamenting, lemmy.ml, even if created by comrades, is a pretty liberal instance, comrades like yoghots (shout out to him) get censored and banned unjustly all the time, they just can’t stand the fact that people have ideologies differing from the democratic party.

[accidentally tagged NSFW, please mods remove tag, I cant from app]

  • albigu
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    Yeah, but the article is not from La Rouche, but from a guy associated with his movement. And most of what is in that article about Xinjiang is already common knowledge nowadays. I don’t think posting one specific article about a thing is a blunder or endorsement of the person’s ideology elsewhere, we all read news from the USA every once in a while. Should we not link the NY Post if it accidentally makes a good point? This is the typical “guilty by association” gotcha libs like to do retroactively with anything outside their comfort zone, where

    “Lemmy must be bad; lemmy is made by a dev <- the dev linked an article once <- the article is written by Engdhal <- Engdhal is a LaRouchite <- La Rouche is a fascist. Lemmy is fascist. QED”

    None of that has to do with the main allegation of removing orientalist conspiracy theories, which I think is good, actually. If you actually want a glimpse into Dessalines’s ideological positions and thoughts rather than working from tenuous proxies, another user here linked his GitHub essay webpage. Apparently he also made audiobook versions of some classic books too.

    Besides, the context of that allegation is very vague and coming from a guy called “lemmyisfacist” so I’d be more critical of it. For all we know the ban might have been for pushing back against the “concentration camps” conspiracy theory as even “leftist” Reddit was struggling with that at the time. Even the post about it goes on to complain that on the appeal Dessalines “denied the Uyghur genocide”, so is it really because of La Rouche?

    But even if it was such a blunder, I don’t see any LaRouchites in lemmy.ml or lemmygrad. That isn’t tolerated here at all. One mistake from 5 years ago without any follow up in that direction is hardly what I would call “relevant” today, specially if you focus on the community and the software, rather than Dessalines as an individual.

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      The Rev left episode on LaRouche is pretty fascinating. Dropping the link here if anyone is interested.

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        I’ll be listening to it shortly thank you!

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      I don’t know why you’re trying to convince me, I never said I agreed with the original claim that Dessalines was a fascist.

      I’m just saying that using that article was a major blunder.

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        Sorry, I misunderstood your comment. Leaving it there in case somebody does think that though.

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          That’s perfectly alright! Sorry if I was a bit confusing! You did a really good write up, and I would definitely leave it up!