@yogthos@lemmy.ml Can’t blame the US for wanting to get some value for all the treasure they’ve spent on the Ukraine project.
“Completely humiliate Russia by giving Ukraine our old stuff sitting on shelves that costs us basically nothing but the shipping to Europe; not risking any of our soldiers; restarting munitions production lines to refill our stock with new, even better weapons that fuels US job growth and innovation” should be enough already. The amount we’ve given Ukraine is less than just a few days cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns. It’s like the deal of the millennium. We should be sending Ukraine everything we can.
it’s enough to make you wonder if russia will ever stop it’s new war based economy; given the lessons that they’ve learned about their own military’s capabilities.
you’d also wonder if other people around the world would learn the same lesson that the ukrainians had to learned the hard way; that the united states created the nato clique using political violence like they did in latin america or the middle east and, just like latin america or the middle east, you’re nothing more than profit motive cannon fodder to the united states if you let us agitprop you into believing that you can join us.
Henry Kissinger once said: To be our enemy is bad, to be our friend is worse. I’m paraphrasing, but the gist is the same.
What threat does Russia pose to us, and why should we care about Ukraine? It’s a border dispute and none of anyone’s business apart from the protagonists!
That’s what the US said during WWII
Then they said, “Oh God. The Germans were supposed to defeat those commies but now the commies are on track to win the entire war themselves!”
So they jumped in, fought less than 20% of the Nazis, got to Berlin long after the Russians liberated it, and then claimed that the US are the anti-fascist heroes after dropping nukes on hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians while in the middle of a negotiation with Japan.
Don’t forget the kicker: they justified it afterwards by saying they needed them to surrender unconditionally while the US (purposely) set conditions similar to those Japan was already agreeing to before the bombings. And of course kkkrakkkers still eat that up to this day.
Job growth and innovation ? Wow, didn’t think it was still possible to think something like that
Sadly, war fuels a lot of innovation, and it’s been that way for thousands of years. While I don’t like war and wish people could just live and let live, yes, we will need people to run the manufacturing lines, companies to mine and refine the raw materials, etc. Many of those lines were running minimally, if at all, because we already had the warehouse of old stuff. Now that we don’t (or at least have less), there’s room for more. And that in turn will provide the money for those companies to develop better weapons. Again, nothing really new. It’s a tale as old as time.
