• Mountain_Mike_420@lemmy.ml
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    27 days ago

    You are right but getting trump in office will lead to more Christian fascists in the Supreme Court.

    We lost roe vs wade last time, what are you willing to lose this time?

    As a white male I have nothing to lose. It’s my niece and my sister’s unborn kids who will be the one paying for your petulance.

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      Obama was president for 8 years, was he not? Did he fill the supreme court to guard it from such things? As I recall, he made milquetoast compromises on it. Now we have Biden in office, one of the architects of the crime bill known for mass incarceration, one of the architects of the student loan bill that made it harder to get debt forgiven, among other problems, and there are people calling him “progressive” because of his administration doing some minor tweaks while he funds a genocide. How much worse does the democrat party have to be before it is clear to you they are not meaningful opposition to fascism and, in fact, work in lockstep with it much of the time.

      I find it strange that you pull out words like “petulance” when we are talking about a party that funds genocide. Are you honestly telling me you think it is childish and feet dragging to resist supporting a party that is complicit in such things? That you think you are mature to throw a Palestinian kid in front of a bus in a vain attempt to save your niece and sister’s reproductive rights? Which are already in shambles? When are you going to get that what we’re up against is not defeated by voting once every 2-4 years for whoever they say is the worse one this time.

      Why do you assume I have nothing to lose, that I am “willing” to lose things? Do you think my individual will had anything to do with Roe V. Wade getting overturned? Am I a supreme court justice? No. Did I choose who gets appointed as one? No. No matter who I vote for now, or voted for in the past, I was never consulted on that decision. In fact, the near total ignoring of the people’s will on that matter was demonstrated handily when Brett Kavanaugh was nominated and ultimately confirmed in spite of the SA allegation and subsequent protest during his nomination.

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        26 days ago

        Of course, as always, when this is brought up and how the Supreme Court as a whole is an absolutely dog-shit undemocratic system meant to enforce every mechanism of white supremacy in this nation; they just plug their ears.

        When the cards fall and the very thing that they’re scared about (the sudden mechanisms of the ruling class thrashing out in violence) that it’s going to target THEM as LIBERALS and not the literal litany of history available that they always, always, always go after minorities, LGBTQ and socialists/communists first.

        But ohhh noes! Project 2045! That’s why we gotta send another 15 billion to Ukraine, call everyone Russian agents and double down on the same milquetoast candidates that don’t fight against a god damn fucking thing. Incremental changes here, guys! Time for brunch!!

        The fucking brainworms dig in and start systematically chowing down on all political memory within the past 10 years. “NUH-UH! OBAMA WAS HECKIN AWESOME!! DOWNDOOT!!” because they don’t fucking give a shit.

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      27 days ago
      1. One lost Roe vs Wade under the Democrats. The defence against malevolence here is incompetence at best. The Democrats are malevolent.
      2. the racist privilege displayed by US Americans (whatever the colour) at a chance (even then no guarantee) to divide the loot of imperialism more equitably is a sight to behold
      3. a lot of us were liberals once; being aware of number two in one-self where appropriate is achievable without resorting to reaction

      https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Reactionary