The mod team of r/antifastonetoss on Reddit has chosen to revive the c/antifastonetoss community on Lemmy.

Our plan is first to repost comics from r/AST here. Then, we will start organising to actually deplatform stonetoss from the internet, which we are allowed to do here (and yes it’s legal).

This community is therefore a bit different from the subreddit. We hope to do more organising here. Some examples:

  • post tweets or facebook posts from stonetoss that we can report.
  • save shit he says for posterity (like the time he appeared on the killstream, now deleted, or the time he went to Japan and was sad women weren’t throwing themselves at him, also deleted).
  • tweet our edgier comics back at him!

If you’re new on lemmy, we also hope that you’ll enjoy the website enough to stay!

If you’re not new on Lemmy, we hope you’ll subscribe to our community!

  • RandomSovietKidM
    3·
    4 years ago

    And now I’ve got another question… Has there been any action against his website? Was it successful? (Well, considering that his website is still up, probably not, but did it at least inconvenience him?)

    A WHOIS lookup tells me that his domain is registered at Namecheap, so I decided to look at their Terms of Service. There is a registration agreement (see here: https://www.namecheap.com/legal/domains/registration-agreement/) that says the following:

    You agree not to use the Services provided by Namecheap, or to allow or enable others, to use the services provided by Namecheap for illegal or improper purposes. As such, you agree not to:

    […]

    use the Services for content that will profess hatred for particular social, ethnical, religious or other groups;

    […]

    use the Services in a manner that is violent or encourages violence.

    Maybe we could get him in trouble with these two parts of the agreement? Because he definitely professes hatred against social, ethnical, and religious groups. I don’t remember whether he ever explicitly encouraged violence, but if he did, that’d make an even better reason to cancel his registration, I think.

    (EDIT: added link to Namecheap’s registration agreement)

    • CriticalResist8OPMA
      3·
      4 years ago

      Hmm, it would be possible maybe to tip off namecheap! Usually on whois there’s an email you can reach for abuse (usually abuse@namecheap.com). Good catch!

      If his domain name got revoked on namecheap it would be possible for him to register somewhere else, so someone would have to snipe that domain name and that may be considered illicit –

      Then again stonetoss would have to lodge a complaint, and doing that would likely reveal his own name. Would he really retain an attorney for that though?

      It’s an avenue to explore, I’ll take it up with the subreddit mod team if that’s okay with you, we’ll be able to talk about it away from prying eyes. Thanks for reporting this!

      • RandomSovietKidM
        1·
        4 years ago

        Yes, please take it up with the subreddit mod team (and, if possible, keep me updated on what you’re deciding and doing). I don’t have the money or capabilities to snipe that domain name if Namecheap revokes it from him, so it’d be great if someone from the mod team or just any trusted person can.

        I also looked at their instructions for reporting abuse (at https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx/9196/5/how-and-where-can-i-file-abuse-complaints). It contains some useful information about what to include, but it also contains this paragraph:

        Some types of abuse may not be verified from our side if we only act as a registrar and the abusive content resides on third-party servers. Due to this, we will not take restrictive action in order to avoid false-positive cases. This policy particularly affects copyright/DMCA, email abuse/spam, fraud, malware/hacking activity, etc.

        To expedite the resolution, we highly recommended escalating websites that are registered with Namecheap only to their respective hosting provider supporting your report with sufficient evidence. You might also decide to get in touch with the domain name holder directly by using the Whois details that are assigned to that domain name. If the Whois details are hidden by our WhoisGuard privacy protection service, feel free to send your email to the protected email address (like ****.protect@whoisguard.com). It will then be forwarded to the real email address of the domain holder.

        If I understead correctly, they suggest to instead reach out to his hosting provider. I’m not too sure how to find out someone’s hosting provider, but this site and another one that I searched tells me that he’s hosted with Cloudflare. And Cloudflare’s site (see https://www.cloudflare.com/abuse/) says:

        Cloudflare offers network service solutions including a reverse proxy, pass-through security service, and a content distribution network (CDN). Because Cloudflare is a reverse proxy, our IP addresses appear in WHOIS and DNS records for websites using our services. Cloudflare is not a website hosting provider, and we cannot remove material from the Internet that is hosted by others.

        […]

        You can report abuse using the reporting form below. Cloudflare will forward abuse reports that appear to be substantially complete to the responsible website hosting provider and to the website owner. In response to a substantially complete abuse report, Cloudflare will provide the complainant with the contact information for the responsible website hosting provider so they can be contacted directly.

        So, apparently, if we do it that way, we first have to write the complaint to Cloudflare using that page, and then hope that Cloudflare will reply with the actual hosting’s contact information, and then write a complaint to that actual hosting provider.

        Do you think that that could be a way? It sounds complicated, but if we can take down his website this way, it’s definitely worth it.

        • CriticalResist8OPMA
          2·
          4 years ago

          It’s possible that he is registered through namecheap as they offer hosting services too. Cloudflare only acts as a cloud service to help prevent spam and DDoS attacks and he is likely on their free plan. On a whois lookup, it also allows him to anonymize his hosting provider as they are the ones who provide the nameservers. We may be able to get his cloudflare account deleted if they don’t want to provide their service to stonetoss, but they can’t do much more. If we do that he’ll have to go back to his host’s name servers though, so that’s an avenue of exploration.

          In any case it’s worth contacting namecheap directly and see how they respond first. I shared this with the mod team and we’re looking into our next steps. We have to do this carefully.

          I’ll send you updates by private message though!