I agree. I feel like we’re seeing now how much the US overplayed it’s hand in the Yemen proxy war / genocide. The Saudi govt does seem pretty done with this shit and doesn’t want to provoke any more attacks on their oil extraction. I feel like SA only really cares about doing business. Not sure where it was, but I heard that the Saudi’s are telling the US not to use their airfields now. That would be a big reversal from a few years back.
I’d say it’s pretty easy for other countries in the region right now to look at Isntreal and the US drunk on blood, and just say no thanks. In a way the US might just creating more fertile ground for a Chinese partnership and peace. Personally, I’d like to see the Saudi govt face charges for war crimes, but that won’t happen in my lifetime.
I think in a very real sense, if our species makes it through this (and that that is even in question shows how bad things are, how unhinged the US and the entire west is) a sort of beautiful, imperfect, but deeply optimistic foundation for peace is being built across the global south.
Obviously, the Saudis deserve to face charges for war crimes, yes. But the primary contradiction comes first, and its imperial hubris, its bloodlust, its infinite greed and rapacity is becoming intolerable worldwide, and if it takes the Saudis, the Hindutvas, the Taliban who were formerly convenient US proxies, the Islamist Iranians (though the extent of demonization they receive is, as always, extreme to the point of being comically untrue, western media would nigh have you believe the Ayatollahs eat babies and rule as supreme god-emperors), if it takes any number of questionable forces to take that contradiction- what I would argue is the primary force for, and the champion of contradiction worldwide, whose global policy has only ever been to offer the world destabilization and eternal war- then it is worth it, and I think the Saudis’ victims- the Yemenis, among others, would agree.
The Saudis are the way they are, anyways, because of the west. Obviously they had their own agency, but they would not be where they are today, if they had been anything else- and now, here they are, seeking a different path, a path that leads to an actual future, independence, and dignity for their people and state, flawed as it may be. The Saudis have been cultivated to be the way they are, led down a dark path- and they were the ones chosen, over the Hashemites (who themselves were deeply flawed, and remain so in Jordan) because of their extremism, and their willingness to play ball with even the most intolerable of western imperialism in the region, just as the Hashemites had been chosen prior for similar reasons.
I agree. I feel like we’re seeing now how much the US overplayed it’s hand in the Yemen proxy war / genocide. The Saudi govt does seem pretty done with this shit and doesn’t want to provoke any more attacks on their oil extraction. I feel like SA only really cares about doing business. Not sure where it was, but I heard that the Saudi’s are telling the US not to use their airfields now. That would be a big reversal from a few years back.
I’d say it’s pretty easy for other countries in the region right now to look at Isntreal and the US drunk on blood, and just say no thanks. In a way the US might just creating more fertile ground for a Chinese partnership and peace. Personally, I’d like to see the Saudi govt face charges for war crimes, but that won’t happen in my lifetime.
I think in a very real sense, if our species makes it through this (and that that is even in question shows how bad things are, how unhinged the US and the entire west is) a sort of beautiful, imperfect, but deeply optimistic foundation for peace is being built across the global south.
Obviously, the Saudis deserve to face charges for war crimes, yes. But the primary contradiction comes first, and its imperial hubris, its bloodlust, its infinite greed and rapacity is becoming intolerable worldwide, and if it takes the Saudis, the Hindutvas, the Taliban who were formerly convenient US proxies, the Islamist Iranians (though the extent of demonization they receive is, as always, extreme to the point of being comically untrue, western media would nigh have you believe the Ayatollahs eat babies and rule as supreme god-emperors), if it takes any number of questionable forces to take that contradiction- what I would argue is the primary force for, and the champion of contradiction worldwide, whose global policy has only ever been to offer the world destabilization and eternal war- then it is worth it, and I think the Saudis’ victims- the Yemenis, among others, would agree.
The Saudis are the way they are, anyways, because of the west. Obviously they had their own agency, but they would not be where they are today, if they had been anything else- and now, here they are, seeking a different path, a path that leads to an actual future, independence, and dignity for their people and state, flawed as it may be. The Saudis have been cultivated to be the way they are, led down a dark path- and they were the ones chosen, over the Hashemites (who themselves were deeply flawed, and remain so in Jordan) because of their extremism, and their willingness to play ball with even the most intolerable of western imperialism in the region, just as the Hashemites had been chosen prior for similar reasons.