Did you stop voting for Dems when they did a genocide in Korea? Genocide in Vietnam? 40 year proxy war Afghanistan? Was it a genocide in Afghanistan when the US refused to accept two Taliban surrenders? Million dead in Iraq? Yugoslavia? Chile? East Timor? Panama?
I mean… Andrew Jackson, the founder of the “Democratic Party”, was a genocidal warhawk maniac that signed the Indian Removal Act which was a edict to ethnically cleanse the Native American population and steal their land and killed waaay more people than Isntreal has. What made all those bigger stains wash off, but not this one?
I wasn’t old enough to vote for like any of the bits you named, and where I lived didn’t teach Jackson’s fuckshit, so… I know you thought you were cookin but maybe stay out the kitchen next time if you’re gonna break every egg in the fridge and still manage to not make an omelet. “Watabout watabout watabout” is all I hear out of you.
Whoever greenlit your account really should be second-guessing themselves right now, because the more I think about this, the more it don’t sit right with me; why you out here caping for genociders with such a backhanded gish gallop? These devils don’t need advocates, so what the fuck is good?
Yep. You got me there. I haven’t had a single social media account since I was banned off of reddit two years for calling Ukraine a “nazi-ass proxy war”. Been lurking here for a while now to cope with depression.
Definitely not defending Dems. I can’t even read that in any way other than ‘this political party committed a mountain of war crimes’.
I’m not assuming anything about their voting record other than that they claim to have voted for / supported that party in the past. Considering that all the Democratic party votes and cheerleading for endless war and atrocities is public record, I think it’s fair to ask why earlier events in history weren’t enough to come to the same conclusion.
No of course not, but its hard to imagine American voters forgot the US military killed millions of people in my country. It was a pretty big deal at the time and there sure are a whole lot of films celebrating it.
It really is an honest question, though. I think it’s interesting where people draw lines and “I really didn’t know about those other things” is also a totally reasonable answer, should it be offered.
I mean… Andrew Jackson, the founder of the “Democratic Party”, was a genocidal warhawk maniac that signed the Indian Removal Act which was a edict to ethnically cleanse the Native American population and steal their land and killed waaay more people than Isntreal has. What made all those bigger stains wash off, but not this one?
I knew this as a child. When I got to voting age I thought maybe Obama would close Guantanamo, so I voted for him. That is the only time I ever voted for a president. People can be wrong for thinking harm reduction is a valid choice.
You just came in real hot with an account that has almost no history how is anyone supposed to know your intentions when you come in berating people for explaining how they learned they were wrong?
Nope, I’m not doing any kind of flex. I’ve never even had the ability to vote in US elections, so I have no moral interaction with that question.
Its just that I’ve been talking to Dem voters lately who’ve finally decided that Palestine was a red line for them, and I can’t help but to wonder why all the other US-backed deaths in Gaza or million dead in Iraq was not. As you’d probably expect, the reactions are usually defensive to hysterical. I’ll admit was hoping for a more interesting or honest dialogue about it here.
Did you stop voting for Dems when they did a genocide in Korea? Genocide in Vietnam? 40 year proxy war Afghanistan? Was it a genocide in Afghanistan when the US refused to accept two Taliban surrenders? Million dead in Iraq? Yugoslavia? Chile? East Timor? Panama?
I mean… Andrew Jackson, the founder of the “Democratic Party”, was a genocidal warhawk maniac that signed the Indian Removal Act which was a edict to ethnically cleanse the Native American population and steal their land and killed waaay more people than Isntreal has. What made all those bigger stains wash off, but not this one?
I wasn’t old enough to vote for like any of the bits you named, and where I lived didn’t teach Jackson’s fuckshit, so… I know you thought you were cookin but maybe stay out the kitchen next time if you’re gonna break every egg in the fridge and still manage to not make an omelet. “Watabout watabout watabout” is all I hear out of you.
Whoever greenlit your account really should be second-guessing themselves right now, because the more I think about this, the more it don’t sit right with me; why you out here caping for genociders with such a backhanded gish gallop? These devils don’t need advocates, so what the fuck is good?
I don’t think they are defending Dems. Making some weird assumptions about your voting record though which is odd.
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Yep. You got me there. I haven’t had a single social media account since I was banned off of reddit two years for calling Ukraine a “nazi-ass proxy war”. Been lurking here for a while now to cope with depression.
Definitely not defending Dems. I can’t even read that in any way other than ‘this political party committed a mountain of war crimes’.
I’m not assuming anything about their voting record other than that they claim to have voted for / supported that party in the past. Considering that all the Democratic party votes and cheerleading for endless war and atrocities is public record, I think it’s fair to ask why earlier events in history weren’t enough to come to the same conclusion.
Not speaking for supa specifically but it’s not fair or reasonable to expect people to have perfect knowledge at all times.
No of course not, but its hard to imagine American voters forgot the US military killed millions of people in my country. It was a pretty big deal at the time and there sure are a whole lot of films celebrating it.
It really is an honest question, though. I think it’s interesting where people draw lines and “I really didn’t know about those other things” is also a totally reasonable answer, should it be offered.
I knew this as a child. When I got to voting age I thought maybe Obama would close Guantanamo, so I voted for him. That is the only time I ever voted for a president. People can be wrong for thinking harm reduction is a valid choice.
You just came in real hot with an account that has almost no history how is anyone supposed to know your intentions when you come in berating people for explaining how they learned they were wrong?
Fair enough. I’m just interested in where people draw their lines on electoral participation. And yeah, I know that makes people pretty defensive.
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Oh, so this is a holier-than-thou flex, got it. I don’t owe you a single motherfuckin explanation for dick, how’s that. Foh.
Nope, I’m not doing any kind of flex. I’ve never even had the ability to vote in US elections, so I have no moral interaction with that question.
Its just that I’ve been talking to Dem voters lately who’ve finally decided that Palestine was a red line for them, and I can’t help but to wonder why all the other US-backed deaths in Gaza or million dead in Iraq was not. As you’d probably expect, the reactions are usually defensive to hysterical. I’ll admit was hoping for a more interesting or honest dialogue about it here.