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    The average person is conflict avoidant and terrible at negotiating. In general life, this is even a virtue. But it’s bad for revolutions. Get more comfortable being stubborn, people

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    What amuses me the most is that libs would get mad if they saw this thread.

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    Y’all don’t understand how things work. Don’t be naïve. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Etc etc fucking etc

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      y’all

      I’m not one for inspecting people’s language choices and I’m not even from the US, so I don’t have a dog in this race… but goddamn, libs using y’all annoys me to no end

      Edit: I should have been clearer here. There’s lots of varieties of US English which use y’all and that’s obviously natural, it’s just that I’ve seen lots of wannabe DC staffer coastal lib types using it in a way that feels kinda condescending and annoying

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        It’s a normal part of speech in like half of statesian dialects, including AAVE

        Having grown up with it I honestly think it’s weirder not to have a gender-neutral second-person pleural pronoun.

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        y’all

        I grew up in the in the SF Bay Area and at the time when I was a kid to me Marin county was the most “typical” place in California. By “typical” I mean liberal. That was a million years ago back then politics was purely adult stuff. Kids never bothered with and didn’t give a crap about.

        Now - many decades later - when I’m trying to get the voice right of the most liberal person possible - I try to imagine what a wine mom (Or a wine dad. A micro-brew beer dad?) in a house costing many millions would say on the net as she sipped a $300 wine. Of course - nobody in Marin is going to use y’all in speech. It’s as foreign to them as talking to an actual leftist.

        Y’all in rich white lib online usage is a patronizing “folksy” word to get the moronic hoi polloi to understand the realities of politics in the real world. Compromise must be the order of the day because blah blah blah blah blah…

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        Ninja edit

        I error checked my humor format - haha. I haven’t lived in California for decades. I wanted to see how rich Marin County actually is. Yeap - I’ll keep my Marin country wine mom for reference.

        10 Richest Counties in California (2023) | PropertyClub

        1. Santa Clara County
        2. San Mateo County
        3. Marin County
        4. San Francisco County
        5. Alameda County
        6. Contra Costa County
        7. Orange County
        8. Placer County
        9. Napa County
        10. Santa Cruz County
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        I keep seeing y’all discourse. I grew up in the south and the word is used by everyone as part of the typical dialect. Maybe it’s an affectation in some parts of the country but it’s just a normal word where I’m from.

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          That’s because you’re from the South and Southern American English and Appalachian English are the two biggest dialects that normally use y’all.

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    All the institutions in the US/allies nearly instantaneously divested from all Russian-related ventures immediately upon Russian military entering Ukrainian territories

    The only reason for a delay is to let the “passions” of this moment fade and then simply vote it down in October. If there was an actual intention to divest, they could hold a vote this week, next week, first week of June… October is incredibly far off and there can’t be justification for it.

    I think it’s good that they are at least agreeing to think about/talk about it, but ultimately this is now a non-negotiable topic and I don’t think the boomers have realized it yet. Israel must be shut off from the world economically and all the sanctions that liberals drooled over for Russia placed on Israel… immediately. At least until they end (not agree to talk about, but actually end it) their apartheid system, tear down that wall around Gaza, allow a Palestinian state which is connected, and of course end all current and future illegal military aggression against Palestine, end the illegal embargo.

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    (At the vote in 5 most months) That was an amazing speach sweaty, but unfortunately there’s just nothing we can do, we just have to support genocide maybe-later-kiddo

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    Come Octoberthey will get a seat on a committee preparing the vote. After eight months of deliberations a vote is held whether or not to endorse a petition to the board to divest from companies without a CSR policy. The vote will pass and the board will consider the petition but will ultimately reject it due to legal advice about their fiduciary responsibility for the endowment and the risk of antisemitism suits of a zionism-related company is divested from.

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      They will also announce very publicly that they will raise tuition to an unnecessarily absurd price, and they will emphasize that it was the pro Palestinian side that caused the DOD funding to stop. This causes most students to resent them, then they protest to reduce the tuition. The school will say “we thank the pro Palestine protestors for helping us be a more transparent and democratic institution. As a result, we have heard the recent concerns regarding tuition changes, and we have decided to reinstate our partnership with Israel to secure DOD funding and reduce tuition.”

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    They did this shit during BLM and Occupy and every other big protest during my lifetime. I know some of these people weren’t really around for occupy, but surely they remember BLM

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    Lack of object permanence is a hell of a thing

    Maybe the certain failure will spur some of them to radicalize, realizing the intent was only to dupe them

    Maybe they will treat this failure like every other, as a problem of ‘bad faith actors’, not as a system working exactly as intended