• InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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    Yeesh…

    If your interest is challenging slavery, you could make more material difference as a slave owner, surely, in that you could emancipate all your slaves whereas, as a slave, you could not emancipate yourself.

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    I still remember in the 8th grade when my teacher told my entire class that if we were all slaves, I would probably be the only one to actually fight back

    This was probably because earlier that year, I wrote a paper about John Brown and how he was my hero because he was willing to do what was right regardless of the cost

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      I remember in 8th grade I was very capitalist and conservative, or so I thought. We were learning about the inequality behind the Olympics and at one point she asked the class to raise their hand if they would prefer that the “1%’s” wealth be redistributed so the poor suffer less. Only me and one other raised our hands lol. She said “congratulations. You two are socialists.” It’s lib as hell but still got me thinking about what I actually value vs. what I think I valued.

      She also happily - smiles and all - recounted a story where her professor said the US deserved 9/11 as it was happening, and she didn’t follow it up with telling us that her professor was wrong for saying it lol.

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      That is a very weird thing to say unless I guess you’re teaching a class of all white kids or you and the teacher are both black. Cause I’m thinking back to my school experience if a teacher said that they’d be treading in some dangerous ground.

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    I thought she was some right-wing wacko rando (probably a libertarian) who would use the poll as “proof” of something insane. It turns out she has a Wikipedia page. She’s an associate professor of philosophy at the University of Chicago.

    Agnes Callard

    Agnes Callard (née Gellen; born 1976) is an American philosopher and an associate professor of philosophy at the University of Chicago. Her primary areas of specialization are ancient philosophy and ethics. She is also noted for her popular writings and work on public philosophy.

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    A tweet reply

    @UChicago happy Black History Month! What the fuck is this?

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    What the hell kind of question is this? Like anyone’s gonna answer ”yes, I’d like to be a slave please” if that’s one of your only two options.

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    I think this isn’t really the way it was intended, but that is the better option since being made a slaver gives you a better chance to free slaves (by immediately stopping being a slaver) rather than being a slave, where you’d be lucky to even free yourself. These fuckers surely just mean that you carry out the “duty” of whatever position you are placed in, though.

    John Brown’s body lies a-mouldering in the grave

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      If the hypothetical was “you are suddenly transported back to chattel slavery times in the US as a slave. What do you do?” Most of these ghouls would say “I would try to kill my owner” no matter how ridiculous their hypothetical plan is

      But if you say “you are suddenly transported back as a slave owner. What do you do?” Then suddenly it’s all about civility and their creativity about rebellion is nonexistent. They don’t think they have a duty to fit the role because they would likely choose rebellion as a slave. They’re simply lazy and racist.

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      I read one of her NYT columns about the importance of questioning your assumptions. She’s not much of a thinker. Drat. I shouldn’t have questioned my assumptions.

      you carry out the “duty”…

      I’m nearly 100% certain that’s what she meant.

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      Even in CHUD fantasies, their ideas have to be forced in order for them to hold any merit. They can never succeed on an even playing field.

      smuglord: “Ok, snowflake. Would you have you and the rest of your puny undesirables be allowed to be alive or have the apocalypse happen because your betters were denied their opportunity to run things well like they naturally do?”

      refuse-the-question: "I refuse the question

      smuglord: “Stupid moral[slur]. That’s literally impossible. In this hypothetical, you either do whatever I want or else everyone dies. Your choice.”

      refuse-the-question: “But sometimes we don’t listen to you, and we’re still alive.”

      smuglord: “Uhhh…well…LOL I TROLLED YOU! U MAD BRO?”