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    2 years ago

    Aren’t sustainable shipping plans surfacing here and there? As Marx noticed, technical progress is always reaction to the economic conditions and sustainable shipping is not even this far fetched, although it will certainly be less costeffective than currently, at least at first. And i don’t think supercontainer ships will disappear any soon - they are the most costeffective method of sea transport, so the decline will hit the operators of smaller ships first, and resources will get concentrated.

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      And i don’t think supercontainer ships will disappear any soon - they are the most costeffective method of sea transport

      Not sure what you imagine is anytime soon, but sea transport competes with land transport.
      World solar and wind power combined last year went on to become bigger than world nuclear power and both are on their way to eclipse nuclear individually this decade.
      And that’s without taking in account of the fossil fuel crises that’s going on right now.

      US Shale oil production is peaking or has peaked, which is already bad quality oil that’s expensive to refine and getting worse, and moving oil for electricity to gasoline use is coming to an end as hardly any oil produces electricity anymore.
      There’s maybe two or three countries left that can still significantly increase oil production in the world and all three are more or less at constant war with the US if not occupied by it.

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        Not sure what you imagine is anytime soon

        At least few years, most likely many more. Even if the transition starts now, railway is massive investment. While there are signs of global reneissance of railways, overwhelming most of it is in China. As you can see from the example of California, US have much problems with even the most needed infrastructure, and Europe is entering energy crisis that optimistically will saw massive shift towards clean energy and sustainable transport, but it might as well be just a collapse, or most likely something between.

        World solar and wind power combined last year went on to become bigger than world nuclear power and both are on their way to eclipse nuclear individually this decade.

        Yes, but my point was that big sea transport will be last or close to last to be affected by it due to pure cost effectiveness of such transport. The first one would be small scale land transport.