• Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    To the best of my knowledge “school resource officers”, armed cops deployed in schools after colombine, have neevr stopped a single shooting. They have, however, sent a million or more children in to the criminal justice system for minor disciplinary infractions, with many of those kids being charged and sent to jail or prison.

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    I’m pretty sure there’s codified legal precedent that the USA Police have no responsibility to put their lives in danger to protect civilians.

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      CW Violence:

      Lozito v. New York City

      In the spring of 2012, Joseph Lozito, who was brutally stabbed and “grievously wounded, deeply slashed around the head and neck”, sued police for negligence in failing to render assistance to him as he was being attacked by Gelman.[20][21][22] Lozito told reporters that he decided to file the lawsuit after allegedly learning from “a grand-jury member” that NYPD officer Terrance Howell testified that he hid from Gelman before and while Lozito was being attacked because Howell thought Gelman had a gun.[23][24] In response to the suit, attorneys for the City of New York argued that police had no duty to protect Lozito[25] or any other person from Gelman.[23]

      On July 25, 2013, Judge Margaret Chan dismissed Lozito’s suit, stating that while Lozito’s account of the attack rang true and appeared “highly credible”, Chan agreed that police had “no special duty” to protect Lozito.[20][21][26]

      Lozito later went on to give an account of the aftermath in an article published by Cracked.com in October 2013,[27] and again in October 2017 when he narrated a video, offering his perspective of the event and as a warning to others involved in similar situations. Lozito also shared his experience pertaining to the attack in an episode of Radiolab podcast titled “No special duty.”[28]

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maksim_Gelman_stabbing_spree

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          Cracked.com was a pretty major part of the CIA’s attempt to control internet narratives, they released a lot of listicles written by guys like Robert Evans or basically just regurgitating US state policy on other nations. (Pretty sure they had multiple “top 10 wacky things North Koreans are forced to do” articles)

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            basically just regurgitating US state policy on other nations

            This is most U.S. news outlets. Anything more concrete on a government connection?

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              For an “apolitical” “humour” magazine they sure were big fans of pushing a ton of very explicitly political articles to the forefront. My main suspicion is how Robert Evans wrote for them a lot, he’s got known connections to the CIA and positions himself as a “leftist journalist” but always seems to defend the US state department line. Not sure why a humour website would post a bunch of articles promoting him. Though it doesn’t need to be a direct government connection though, it could just be the owners of the site liking his content. They have shared unabashedly pro-US propaganda quite a bit though, but as you say, this could just be fairly bog standard USians being in so deep they don’t even know how biased their view is.

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            Interesting. Now recent events with a podcast I listen to make more sense. The hosts of Quorators were fired from Cracked recently because they supported Palestine and condemned Israel (off the air, on their personal accounts). Also one of them clogged the Cracked office toilet lol

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      Yeah, there’s more than one Supreme Court decision that say police have no duty to protect a civilian from harm unless you’re in their custody or something (and obv that’s fudgible)

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    I still cannot get over the cop with the punisher background in his phone

    He knew his wife and kid were being massacred in the classroom. He didn’t charge in - okay, understandable somewhat, but he’s likely one of the “I’ll do anything for my family. Anything.” type dudes, but maybe he understood it was futile if he ran in by himself. Okay.

    But he didn’t demand the hallway of heavily armed cops to charge. He didn’t grab someone by the collar and threaten to kill them if they don’t charge the classroom and save his family. He didn’t do ANYTHING. He just tells his team and they take him outside and they just stand there.

    Everyone already knows they’re frauds, but this shooting gave tangible evidence that these punisher goons only see themselves as punishers for weaker people.

    That cop should be shot for being a coward and a fraud on top of being a cop.

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    But they’re getting nothing besides slaps on the wrist right? Sure their community hates their fucking guts, but that hasn’t stopped them from clocking in every day.

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    I’m a bit hung over and just woke up AND have already read this thread, and yet when I saw the title my mind immediately jumped to “but why do farm animals have a moral obligation to care for these children?”