The rate of parents who refused one or more recommended vaccines increased from 9.1% in 2006 to a staggering 16.7% in 2013 1

What happened between these two time periods?

-CIA faked a vaccination drive to collect DNA from children in Pakistan. (2011) 2
-Beta Israelis were secretly given birth control shots believing that they were flu shots in some cases (2013) 3

Stop screwing around with medicine. Blaming the people doesn’t get at the root of the issue when their governments fomented mistrust in the first place. It takes decades to build up public trust and the antivax movement is a symptom of distrust in institutions, not the cause.

I still got family that won’t vax bc Tuskegee is still VIVID in their memories. Shit, I was told that story by my uncle when I was ten. “If they offer you any ‘free’ vaccine, some ‘free’ medicine, anything like that boo-boo, that’s 'cause they TESTING some shit on you.” And really, who am I to argue that point when they lived it, remembered it, and passed it to me? These are fears that go back multiple generations among my blood-- we can’t trust Amerikans to not be pulling dodgy shit with medicine.

It’s kind of telling that two hours into existence, this somehow has the most downvotes-- will the settlers ever not disapprove of the colonized trying to protect themselves from their predators?

Ultimately they are victims of the system. They begin with a kernel of justified and understandable suspicion toward big corporate pharma but they build around that a whole edifice of paranoid conspiracy theories and unscientific bunk because they lack the dialectical materialist understanding to contextualize what is happening in the world around them. Like most people they instinctively feel that something is wrong and that the capitalist system does not serve their best interests, but not having (and not being allowed to have) a coherent systemic critique they resort to idealist fantasies and the blaming of individuals and secret cabals. Initially they harm themselves and those closest to them (especially their children) by refusing to vaccinate, but they do also harm society when their numbers grow to such a extent that almost eradicated diseases like measles start making a comeback.

I’m of the mind that the medical industry brought a lot of this skepticism and doubt upon themselves by being a greedy, shit eating industry that frequently bankrupts people and/or allows them to die completely preventable deaths and that’s not even getting into their hand in the opioid crisis. That said, fucking sucks that this is how it’s manifested. As always disenfranchisement in the liberal establishment is more quickly picked up by right wing populist grifters (in large part due to their huge funding base) than by left wingers with systemic critiques

They need to be vaccinated.

ask these same people what they think of abortions

right wing American politics is incoherent

I am from India , generally we have no stigma towards vaccinations and conspiracy theories like in the west but I have neighbors who complained that after Covid vaccination they are suffering physically , now it could be true or fake . I have my family members suffering with hypothyroidism , hypertension took Austrazenca and it worked fine for them. I am no biologist or immunologist here but it could be people are afraid of possible side effects or they have herd mentality and bigotry . This could be addressed by proper education and guidance but in the west you have " Second coming of Jesus " and fanatics , they might cancel you on any scientific studies and facts . Heck , they even say every picture NASA has taken of the universe is fake.

There are the people in the picture and then you also get the leftish hippie types that lean more towards alternative medicines and fall for the antivax propaganda. Those people are usually pretty well-meaning but very gullible and scared of anything medicine-related.

They’re whacky.

On one hand, people should get vaccinated. On the other hand, I think they’ve got a point- for all the blatant abuses people have brought up in this thread, and more.

The western COVID vaccines (as someone who has been vaccinated for it) were, and are, still pretty shady in my eyes- or at least, the way the whole issue has been dealt with in the west, is. I think there’s considerable reason to believe that the vaccines were rushed out (understandable, but still), I won’t disagree with anyone claiming that the PREP act and other measures of ensuring those hit with side effects have no measure of recourse is further messed up, and I definitely believe that, for all the actual necessity which genuinely, desperately exists- a large part of the rollout and the media narrative around it in the west, is also being used as yet another means of massively transferring wealth from the public sector, to private corporations. Capitalism never lets a crisis go to waste, after all.

For people not living in imperial cores (as well as certain communities within them), it gets worse when one considers the long and often ongoing history of western pharma using their nations as testing grounds with less if any liability, etc… and then there’s also the fact that much of the vaccines “donated” by the west (after first being hoarded) are generally right near the point of expiry. Not really a recipe for ideal results, or for any public trust…

Personally I think that it’s better for more people to be vaccinated than not all the same, but I can’t really blame those who choose not to with all this context, though I’m not likely to want to mingle excessively around them.

Skxawng. That means “moron” in Na’vi. They’re just as stupid as flat earthers imo

Reactionary plague rats

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We are to treat them as lost.