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TheAnnoyingOne🏳️‍⚧️M to [ARCHIVED] r/historymemes worst takes · 4 years ago

(don’t tell them how the US achieved that)

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(don’t tell them how the US achieved that)

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TheAnnoyingOne🏳️‍⚧️M to [ARCHIVED] r/historymemes worst takes · 4 years ago
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    Gulag prisoners were paid.

    • ☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭A
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      And some gulags were more like villages than prisons. They couldn’t escape because they were in remote areas of Siberia

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        After all, the Gulags were intended for reeducation first and foremost, not punishment. Unlike the US penal system.

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      Better than the average American, too, plus free housing

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      Le source?

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        From the fucking CIA itself (https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80T00246A032000400001-1.pdf) [you may need to enter “RDP80T00246A032000400001-1” in the query box of the CIA reading room page if that link only redirects you there] they even admit on page 3, article 13 that prisoners, able bodied and not, got paid.

        Then there is this: (https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/mharrison/archive/noticeboard/bergson/borodkin-ertz.pdf)

        Chapter 2, 3, and 5 go into more detail here: (http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/metabook?id=hoovergulag)

        And page 29 here: (https://www.hoover.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/0817939423_75.pdf?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)

        Even liberal media can’t hide this shit, and though they do try to paint it as meager by their terminology, as comrade Anatolianin remarks, the wages were enough to buy a house, so it clearly wasn’t meager or insubstantial.

        Edit: Spelling correction

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          Why thank ya partner

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            Np, though I can’t take all the credit, some other comrades somewhere at some time showed these somewhere and I saved the links. Passing on the knowledge does them honor though.

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              WOW! The level that democracy was genuinely regarded for in the USSR never fails to make me think the true possibility of a better world :'). The fact that prisoners were allowed to have some level of say in how they organized themselves is quite astounding. Even better is that there was involvement from civilians (who i imagine would be locals sometimes), to actually interact with these people and be a part of their rehabilitation.

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        Memoirs of the father of the Russian actor Zhzhenov for example.

        If I remember correctly he worked in the Kolyma camp for like 8 years? After his release, it turned out that he had earned enough money to go to Moscow oblast to reunite with his family, buy new clothes and even a new house. Then he returned to Kolyma and worked as a full-time worker.

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