I was trying to sell the idea of Diamat to a liberal and told them about Materialism vs Idealism and they flat out said “Idealism is good” moments after I explained it. To get the ball moving again I used an example explaining why racism was bad using Diamat and their conclusion was “racism isn’t bad” at that point I just gave up before my already plummeting faith in that person hit rock bottom.

Followed up later to understand their reasoning and it turned out the only reason they gave a shit about racism was because “it’s impolite”