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    3 years ago

    I personally am looking at this CPU the same way I would look at NSA’s encryption algorithm: with mistrust and caution.

    There should not be no categorical thinking between “west” and “Asians”. There is no way to compare them directly. I don’t know if you noticed, but Sweden, Germany, Spain etc are more socialist than China is. It’s your typical totalitaristic state and there is no way in hell they are running on my computer.

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      You dont have to trust this new processor, the important thing is that they are developing an alternative to the Intel/AMD duopoly on desktop and server CPUs. You might not be threatened by NSA backdoors, but there are many people and organizations who are.

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        I agree, more players on the market is good. I’m only saying that Chinese backdoors aren:'t any better and they will be there. If this helps any other open source efforts to make an open hardware, then great.

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        DES algorithm was open sourced also. If a project relies on cryptography nobody can prove there is no backdoor. I would prefer for other projects to take off, where I’m more certain about intelligence influence.

        What’s ML again?

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            I agree 100% with your comment. Fuck the surveillance state. Fuck the 14 eyes and their collaborators. Fuck capitalism hard. There’s a metric fuckton of legitimate and serious criticism of the 14 eyes and the practices of the US specifically.

            At the same time, legitimate criticism about any other country is valid, including China. There shouldn’t be sides where one is “bad” and the other is “good.” It rings of Republicans bad/Democrats good. None of the rich and powerful work for you or care about you. That’s the only way they became rich and powerful - sociopathic behavior. To them, you and I only matter as far as we can advance their desires.

            I realize that the US pushes out anti-China rhetoric constantly and most of it is total bullshit. I also see most arguments against the CPP are based around that propaganda. That doesn’t mean that the CPP is doing everything right and deserves a universal pass on criticism. No government does.

            Show me a government full of pure and transparent people and ideas who work solely for the good of everyone and we should get off Lemmy and work on getting citizenship there.

            With all that said if its an open source processor, I don’t understand why it originating country matters if anyone can analyze the technology, but then I know nothing about the inner workings of a processor.

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            I am not belittling the influence of CIA in our daily lives, and it goes far beyond just surveillance, slavery, drug smuggling and so forth. But if you think that giving a gun to a bear to get rid of the wolf is a good idea, then I disagree. Ideas aside, Chinese government allows very few people to be China, in US many people comprise the upper class and can play part in its politics. In US, CIA is not the government, nor a deep state, and its existence is more temporary than China’s dependence on their internal security. The CIA’s effect is enormous but nobody needs them anymore, which is why they are trying to prove their usefulness. My hope is that sooner or later they will die off like oil companies.

            As a Russian who knows his history I don’t see the principal difference between how you name your regime. You can call a typical chekist state ML but it won’t change what it is: a government that follows The Prince by the letter.

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                I’m sorry but there’s no point arguing this. I suggest you look at all of these facts objectively and really stop clinging to the buzzwords and reacting (positively or negatively) to the political agendas as if they didn’t exist.

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                    3 years ago

                    Some buzzwords: expansionist, deeply controlled, ML, etc. In this context they are used intentionally vaguely. Control is not a vague thing, someone orders someone else to do something and the hierarchy is exactly that. Expansionist can be defined in many different ways. The expansions of US and China are different, but this isn’t 1914, noone cares about the land that much anymore. Both fight for spheres of economic and political influence. And recent annexation of HK was not in the slightest supported by HK. Stop using the word expansionist, its meaning has changed in the past 100 years. As for Leninism, it only kind of existed for three years- 1920-1923. The rest, as they say, is history.