EZLN, the favorite example of Anarchists and revisionists of an alternative to Marxism-Leninism, has now collapsed due to lack of solid theoretical fundamentals.
Marxism-Leninism is the consistent science of the liberation of the working masses, and no viable alternatives have been seen to date.
article in English https://apnews.com/article/mexico-indigenous-zapatista-rebels-violence-04006895dc4bd430b4b957d459551a12
Celebrating when our indigenous comrades suffer a setback in self-determination is not a good look. As MLs we should support their fight against Capital even if it doesn’t precisely follow doctrine. There’s much to be learned from Zapatismo.
The Zapatistas don’t even call themselves Anarchists or claim n Anarchist lineage. Don’t be smug against them just to own terminally online anarchists
Obviously it would be better if they could succeed, but it’s also important to recognize that what we’re seeing was entirely predictable. It’s important to look at both the positive and the negative aspects of the approach critically in order to learn to avoid the same pitfalls in the future.
And while it’s true that there is no direct lineage between Zapatistas and western Anarchists, it’s clear that a lot of the ideas and methods are compatible. Hence, the problems that Zapatistas ran into will also be encountered by other movements founded on similar principles.
My main point was that long term liberation cannot be achieved by carving out autonomous regions within a capitalist state. The workers must take charge of the state itself. So far, ML approach has been the only reliable way to achieve that.
Ok fair, yes. The issue of how to survive long term when there’s a hostile state threatening and surrounding you has genuinely been one of my biggest reservations about Anarchism as a whole and is why I come down in favor of having a state
Yogthos is just pointing out how a Workers state must be constructed for the most likely chance of survival. He wasn’t gloating.
And who’s to say Zapatismo can’t Evolve like other branches of socialist ideology?
There should no one be celebrating or going “I told you so”, we need more unity and we can learn from one another
it seems they’re just moving toward what Marxists Leninists are doing
I don’t think anybody is saying that, and we all hope that Zapatismo can and will evolve based on their current experience.