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    Red- The blood of colonized natives

    White- Whiteness

    Blue- Liberalism/Capitalism

    The stars- Trophies of each extinguished nation or tribe

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    I heard that the word “liberty” doesn’t have a universal meaning. The colonists saw Liberty as freedom from British, to do business as they wish with less regulation. The Chinese saw Liberty as a group effort to free themselves from the yoke of feudalism. Hot take, but I don’t like using the word “liberty” in political contexts because of how vastly the definition changes country by country. It’s an abstract ideal.

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      I don’t like it because USAmericans think they’re special because their constitution talks about liberty, as if every other country’s constitution says ”yeah, tyranny for us please, liberty sucks”.

      Just tell them the DPRK constitution says every citizen has equal rights troll

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        I mean I’ll just leave the argument if a lib comes to a “liberty” for all point. I don’t doubt the DPRK says it in their constitution, but I also don’t doubt that Saudi Arabia and England and Ukraine probably also have empty platitudes about liberty. End of the day it doesn’t further any political agenda or talking points, it’s like saying “we aren’t treated fair, let’s change things!” Without expressing WHAT those things are that are unfair and HOW they would go about fixing society

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        DPRK constitution says every citizen has equal rights

        For what it’s worth, the US constitution does not actually say this — even the Fourteenth Amendment doesn’t go that far. That’s why US states can get away with depriving felons the right to vote — it never guaranteed that right.

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      nowdays when people spit liberty, most of the time is to be racist

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      Sure it does, OP just forgot a few words

      Transcription
      • Title: The US flag means:
      • [picture of US flag]
      • Red = Freedom of slavery
      • Blue = Liberty to be homeless
      • Yellow = Not interfering with other countries
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      It does, but only for those that are among the “core”. With enough money you can pay your way out of almost any prison sentence. Meanwhile everyone else is subject to being man handled on the pavement for shoplifting potato chips.

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      I need to make a bot to post this any time fascism gets mentioned.


      The western left’s use of the term fascism, is borderline white-supremacist at this point. Fascism was a form of colonialism that died by the 1940s, and is only allowed to be demonized in public discourse, because it was a form of colonialism directed also against white europeans. It was defeated, and Germany / Italy / Japan reverted to the more stable form of government for colonialism (practiced by the US, UK, France, the Netherlands, etc): bourgeois parliamentarism.

      British, european, and now US colonizers were doing the exact same thing, and killing far more people for hundreds of years in the global south, yet you don’t hear ppl scared of their countries potentially “becoming british colonialists.” They haven’t changed, and their wealth is still propped up by surplus value theft from the super-exploitation of hundreds of millions of low-paid global south proletarians.

      This is why you have new leftists terrified that the UK or US or europe “might turn fascist!!”, betraying that the atrocities propagated by those empires against the global south was and is completely acceptable.