• PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Libs have this worldview that there are certain people that are obligated to vote blue no matter who. Rural white men, not on that list, they don’t care. Minorities, women, LGBT, immigrants, some sections of the working class, those they see as owing their votes to the dem machine. And oh boy do they get pissed if they are not given what is owed. The only voters democrats think they need to earn are rich, suburban, bloombergian centrists that mostly don’t exist, and the few that do already live in deep blue states.

      Like, Republicans are fucked up in a million ways, but at least when their candidate loses they generally respond with “okay we need to turn shit around to get our base out next time.” (Trump is the exception, but he’s the exception on everything). Democrats blame their base, never the candidate’s fault, which is why they keep betting the house on losers instead of recognizing when a candidate isn’t selling.

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        I think you are giving the Republicans too much credit here. It’s not that they actually care what their base wants, it’s that their bases desires line up with capital, so there is no cost to giving it to them.

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          Frequently the Republican base calls for things I don’t think capital cares about. Like I remember 15 years ago when republican office holders would get grilled about young earth creationism and would have to say they believe in it, regardless if they actually cared, since that’s what their base wanted to hear.

          I think a better way of saying it is that Republicans have more leeway to do theater for their base, to say the same bigoted things, because those bigoted demands don’t necessarily conflict with capital. Whereas Democrats have to do the opposite kind of theater, making claims of progressivism and solidarity with poor people, but then not act upon it because that would be in conflict with capital.

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        I mean,we got plenty of contempt for chuds. We just don’t bother to post about them because most people here avoid interacting with them in all cases anyway.

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      It’s so obnoxious because it’s clearly libs trying to work out their family issues. They want bigoted white people to like them because they have to believe the people in their lives aren’t bad people.

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    Not only must you vote, but you must vote exactly the way I tell you to or everything that happens is your fault. This is the democracy i feel is under existential threat and just be protected.

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    Idk about Hitler Particles, but this is the legacy of Perot and Greenspan Nader (got Greenspan crossed with Green Party, cause I’ve got 90s-era brain worms). Third parties are no longer the escape value for “legitimate” dissent. They have become the scapegoat for a failing electoral system.

    “Oh, you think both candidates suck? Well then your support defaults to the candidate I don’t like!”

    The only response I give this is to wave my hand at the EC and say “My vote doesn’t count anyway, so why bother casting it at all?”

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    Anytime theres a thread about a group organizing to withhold support from Biden unless they recieve support/concessions the vote evangelists come out of the woodwork

    As if brump was worth defending. The wall literally got ten feet taller, Jack biden-rember

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    I fucking hate that shit, I got told constantly last election that me not voting was the same as voting for trump. Like what the fuck do I owe the democrats my vote?! if I don’t give it to them I’m cheating them out of something they’re entitled too? The last time I voted was for Bernie in the primaries and I have no intention of voting in anything but local elections again. Voter participation is one of the ways the legitimacy of a government is recognized and I have no intention of adding any legitimacy to the US oligarchy.

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      yeonmi park in the us they pretend to be a multi parties system but then they tell you to vote for the only one correct party and if you dont you are a mean poopoo traitor that hate democracy and basically a fascist.

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      This motherfucker… I never knew someone could make me hate them far more than any of the other politicians but he accepted that challenge and blew it out of the water. He showed Obama how to truly destroy hope.

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    These motherfuckers are all concerned about the flow of donor money until you point out all the monsters donating to people like Biden then it’s “That just proves he appeals to the little man and the wealthy!”

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    But it’s a default vote for Trump just as much as it is a default vote for Biden… which is to say it’s not at all.

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    You know when I saw your username at the top I thought someone was saying you had Hitler particles and my heart dropped meow-hug