Rep. Patrick McHenry is now the acting Speaker of the House.
Now what? So it’s just chaos for the rest of the session?
In contrast to the order and dignity that prevailed until now?
The members are reminded to abide by decorum of the House.
I was honestly yuge impressed she knew such a bigly word.
I did some reading up on this, and there is a difference between the situations now and January. Back in January, the House couldn’t formally start anything for the new Congress until the Speaker was elected. So no committees could be established, no hearings could be held, and new members couldn’t even be sworn in.
But now, all that stuff has happened, so technically committees can still hold hearings. But when the whole House is in session, the only thing they can consider is the Speaker election.
If this goes on for a few days, I wonder if any Republicans will have the chutzpah to hold those Biden Impeachment hearings while they still can’t yet decide on a Speaker…
It’ll go on until some legislation that gives a big break to billionaires needs to move forward in the house, and then all the GOP lickspittles will snap into line faster than they can cash a campaign finance check.
Yes. They will absolutely hold hearings to “own the libs” if they have any option to. It gives them something to pivot to when asked questions that they don’t want to answer (pretty much EVERY question these days).
So what does this mean Wrt the shutdown? No discussion can happen? And if there’s no new speaker in 43 days is there an automatic shutdown?
Committees can still meet, and it’s possible that new budget legislation can be drafted, but it will halt once it gets out of committee, because the whole House can’t take any action until it has a Speaker again.
Can the speaker pro tempore preside? I’m not sure I’ve seen a good resource on that (or who is third in line for the presidency).
But how the hearings can be scheduled if there is no speaker?
Because the hearings are scheduled by the committee chairs, and the committees are still functioning. It’s only the full House sessions that are stuck.
No. There is the Speaker Pro Temp. They’ll run the chamber until a new vote. Speaker votes don’t need to happen any time soon either. Unlike the start of the term, the members are already sworn in and can go about regular business.
The current Pro Temp is a McCarthy ally who was in the debt ceiling negotiations. So we’ll probably see the same as what McCarthy would be doing.
To give an idea of what to expect, the Pro Temp Speaker’s first action after graveling out like he was swinging Mjolnir was to evict Nancy Pelosi from her office despite the fact that she’s in California attending Feinstein’s funeral.
Damn. The level of petty.
Pretty much.
That would be different from the norm how exactly?
Kevin McCarthy just found out in the hardest way possible that Nancy Pelosi only made it look easy.
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I’m curious why you find it funny? What is your proposal for the government to move forward without the speaker?
I’m the anarchist and I don’t find that kind of chaos funny.
You’re laughing? A soulless politician sacrificed every ounce of his dignity to become Speaker of the House only to be fired by Matt Gaetz, famous sex pervert, and you’re laughing?
That’s the republican party. Yeah, I’m usually laughing. They’re assholes, racist, fascist, closeted and generally full of shit.
Doing absolutely nothing but arguing would be the best thing they could do for anyone.
Both of those politicians are duly elected representatives, of the same party.
A) If the people wouldn’t want to be represented by a soulless, friendless husk or a notorious sex pervert, they wouldn’t have voted for them. Obviously a lot of people see that as an appropriate representation of their values and world view.
B) Them sabotaging eachother is actually democracy at work, representing their constituents will in the governing of the collective resources and issues that face the nation. Otherwise, they would be impeached or at least not re-elected.
This is the government the Republican voters want and continue to vote for.
It just happens to be hilarious as it plays out like a farce, we’re only a few poop jokes away from getting cultural grants.
Republican voters want The Jerry Springer Show, Gubmint Style. And they got it. Thanks, assholes.
The House is such an interesting part of our Democracy; it’s where local issues collide with national interests. While
isn’t a small number of people, it seems like a tough argument to suggest that this small smidgen of Florida represents the will of ‘the people’. However, what it ought to do is underscore the importance, nationwide, of participating in the electoral process.
I think the extent to which that will happen largely depends on how the rest of this process plays out, but for the time being, I’m content to sit back and laugh at the absolute shitshow as it develops.
You sure you’re an anarchist? I’d think that the failure of the US government would be a key point in developing local communes. It kind of forces self determination on folks.
Also an anarchist. People in the US (and in most places) aren’t ready for the government to collapse on them. Not in the sense that they’re “not evolved enough” or anything like that, just that there’s work that would need to be done that mostly hasn’t been done yet.
The state is an exploitative organization, but it does perform some legitimate functions that people rely on. Anarchists have ideas on how to replace those functions, but it’s ideally the sort of thing you prepare well in advance, rather than throwing together in a panic at the last minute. A slow decline would be preferable.
I’m of the opinion is only through shocks or actual crisis that you’ll see that sort of organization. You either have folks gearing for a civil war like the Spanish anarchists or you develop something because it’s obvious the system is fundamentally broken (zapatistas, though they’re not quite anarchist). I’m not an anarchist though, just a demsoc.
Going by their comment history, they are not an anarchist.
Yep, I’m sure, my perfect world would be all voluntary communities.
But, I happen to live here, people I care about live here, an unplanned descent into chaos is not high on my list of things to live through.
Oh no, whatever will we do without a speaker?! Everything was working so well up until now. Lmao.
You are not an anarchist.
The government was struggling to move forward with the speaker they had… it sucks that this kind of chaos is occurring, but it’s hardly a new thing. It’s been escalating for years. It’s just this time it bit one of the perpetrators in the ass.
No reason to feel bad for McCarthy. The entire reason he was able to be voted out so easily was because of concessions he had to make with Gaetz and co to get the speakership in the first place.
Had he compromised and worked with the conservative/centrist Democrats, he wouldn’t be nearly as weak as he ended up being.
He compromised with a child sex trafficer, and this is what he got.
I’m the anarchist
I don’t believe you.
You’re not much of an anarchist then. I think hierarchies falling over is as hilarious as it is predictable
How is this chaos any different from when he was still speaker? He took us to the edge of a shutdown just days ago. The chaos has already arrived my friend. At least now their incompetence is on full display and will potentially kill any chance for a majority in the next election.
Gym Jordan’s gonna bust out his finest blazer.
Couldn’t have happened to a better person.
Because a better person wouldn’t be dumb enough to be the Republican Speakers of the House.
Huh. I totally thought Dems would save him.
Love when Dems surprise me!
The fool that he is McCarthy went on Face the Nation and blamed the very Dems that were working with him. The interviewer laughed at him. I’m sure that helped.
Reminds me of that scene from Gladiator where you’re not sure if the emperor is going to put his thumb up or down.
Wait! I need to get some popcorn! This is going to be an absolute shit show!
Like it’s been a smooth operation so far, right?
Republicans right now:
You should have fixed your democracy when it was still possible…
Where were you 40 years ago? You really let us down by waiting so long to let us know.
Sorry, wasn’t born at that time… But I don’t doubt that people have already criticized the 2-party-democracy 40 years ago…
This isn’t the first time democracy in the U.S. has been under threat and from much greater forces than Trump and the GQP. We’re not yet to the place where say, a coalition of countries from around the world are forced to go to war with us and ultimately dismantle the fascist dictatorship we allowed to take over our country.
This is what I don’t get. Yeah McCarthy is a weasel. But by republican standards he’s still fairly moderate. By the Dems helping to push him out, I can pretty much guarantee that whoever replaces him will be 100x worse. Like speaker majorie green. And with another budget battle coming in 6 weeks, I think the Democrats voted very foolishly today. Their votes definitely aren’t going to make things any better.
Greene won’t get the votes.
I think what you’re missing or weren’t paying attention to was the fact this all would have been avoided had McCarthy just stuck with the deal from the Debt Ceiling.
Dems didn’t push him out. They just didn’t save him after he said he wouldn’t negotiate with them. He also spent all weekend going off on Dems on all the Sunday shows when it was his own caucus holding talks hostage.
I think you don’t know enough to really speak on the topic.
I know a lot more than you realize. I wrote another reply that explains a bit more. I’m just trying to be pragmatic here about what’s best for the country. We have no speaker now, with a pending government shutdown in just a few weeks. And we saw how long it took for those lunatics to confirm McCarthy, when they already had a speaker lined up. They don’t even have a replacement lined up. They’re the dog that managed to catch the car. Things are about to get a lot worse in Washington, and that’s not even including the fact that the next speaker will be even worse. I understand why the Democrats are pissed off at him, he’s an asshole. There was also a point in time when everyone thought Boehner was as bad as it gets.
Democrats didn’t help push him out, they just didn’t save him.
Politicians will look up and shout ‘Save us!’… and I’ll look down and whisper ‘No.’"
- Rorschach
Everything is the dems fault!
